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NASA_ISS_Tiger
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HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
I have a 2000 Ford F150 that I keep outside the garage but I don't routinely drive. It's in working order and registered and insured (full coverage, in fact). Recently I received a letter from the HOA that I needed to provide my vehicle registration to them. I negotiated a photo of the license plate showing the current year tag on the vehicle but now they've come back and said that wasn't good enough. No documents require this in our covenants.

My question is: What can an HOA do with a copy of a member's vehicle registration? Can they tow it or confiscate it?

I have the option of putting it in the garage but that means my wife's 2018 Tahoe would be left out on the driveway.

Our HOA doesn't allow sheds/buildings so my garage is my shop too so I only have room for 1 vehicle.

Yes, yes, I know...HOAs suck. I agree but it is what it is. I'm just trying to find out what/why they want the registration. I don't trust them to ask them as they've already lied to me once (when they said the photo was good enough), so asking them to declare what they could use the registration for might prove fruitless as they've shown they lack ethics.



BengalBlood81
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
HOA’s don’t have that much power to confiscate anything. I would just ask them what your personal information is being used for and why it needs to be provided. Until then, don’t give it to them.


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BallsEleven
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
I assume they want to verify the vehicle belongs to you and it isn’t a “guest.”

I would also think that if it isn’t anywhere in the covenant that all members need to provide copies of registration, then you can tell them to go the proper route and pass a new law then you will comply.


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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
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I have a 2000 Ford F150 that I keep outside the garage but I don't routinely drive.


This is the answer to your question, as was the guest mentioned. frick them. Time to use the truck to spite them. Go to the store. Park it elsewhere.

I grumbled about HOAs like everyone. Until Hurricane Harvey down here. The previous homeowner installed a 220 outside for an RV. My buddy hauled arse in said RV during the storm. His house did not flood but was on an island for a number of days, was a new purchase, and was yet to be inspected. He and his family were homeless until they could get out to it and get a bank and inspector to get out their to sign off. We got letters and photos about the RV from about a week or two after it got there. Told them numerous times, they are displaced from the hurricane. Didn't care just kept sending letters and threats. I said frick off, and fix the street light that has been too dim or flat burned out forever. I read all letters I get, chuckle, and throw them away.


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GatorReb
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
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I would also think that if it isn’t anywhere in the covenant that all members need to provide copies of registration, then you can tell them to go the proper route and pass a new law then you will comply.


This.

Our neighborhood recently decided on the facebook group that we had to all swap to one of two trash services and only those two because they come on the same day.

Well one guy put his foot down and straight up asked the HOA President "has this rule be changed in the official HOA laws?" HOA Pres "No but we are telling everyone to change its our new rule" "So it hasnt been officially voted on and put into the HOA regulations? OK well when it does happen then you can tell me what trash service to use. Until then im using whoever the hell i want"



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The Nino
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
Is there a covenant about the number of vehicles per household? It seems like they want to make sure the truck is registered to you or your wife, at that address

Regardless, is this the issue you want to make your stand on? There might not be a specific covenant against this particular issue, but I can guarantee you if you scorn your HOA, they will find covenants you are in violation of. Just go to the president’s house, show the truck registration and voice your issues with the whole situation


NASA_ISS_Tiger
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
There are no restrictions on how many vehicles are allowed.
I offered to do exactly what you said, go and show them the registration and keep it for my own records but not allow them to keep my personal records...they refused that idea. They said they must keep a copy of it on record. That's the part I have issue with.

And no,it's not required to give them the registration per the covenants...currently looking through them.

If all they want is proof of ownership/current registration, I have no problem showing them that information. I have problems with them keeping a copy of it on file as I don't know their intent for possession of a copy of that document.

I am well aware of the situation where they will try to make an example of me on other matters. HOAs are like high school cliques of mean girls.


Weekend Warrior79
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
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They said they must keep a copy of it on record.

Do they have a your other vehicle registrations on record (assuming No)? If they haven't required you to turn in those records, then obviously they do not have a rule to have a copy of all registrations.

They would need to explain the need for the record, and what rules support them asking for the same. I would also attend the next meeting and demand the answers to the same.


NASA_ISS_Tiger
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
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Do they have a your other vehicle registrations on record (assuming No)? If they haven't required you to turn in those records, then obviously they do not have a rule to have a copy of all registrations.


No they have not requested those (and my 2019 C2500 also remains on the driveway) but it's my "daily driver".

Agree, there is no rule for "all registrations".

I will seek an explanation of what rules, what purpose that they are asking for this information.

The meetings are run with an iron fist. They do not allow questions to be asked of the community. Anytime someone asks a question they are immediately shut down. Transparency sucks.


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The Nino
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
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I offered to do exactly what you said, go and show them the registration and keep it for my own records but not allow them to keep my personal records...they refused that idea. They said they must keep a copy of it on record. That's the part I have issue with.
okay. I would suggest you remove the muffler from your truck and make repeated passes by his house. When he comes outside to voice his displeasure, tell him “sorry I can’t hear you, but you can kindly go frick yourself”


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NASA_ISS_Tiger
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Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
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okay. I would suggest you remove the muffler from your truck and make repeated passes by his house. When he comes outside to voice his displeasure, tell him “sorry I can’t hear you, but you can kindly go frick yourself”


LOL..that would go over like a turd in a punch bowl at a wedding...especially since my daily driver is a diesel.

I wish I still had my dad's 2003 diesel to do that.

Of course in my younger years I would have drove by his house with my CB and amp combination and talked to him via every transistor in his house...but that was 25 years ago...

I'm trying to be a good "neighbor" but by their actions they are increasingly making it seem like they only want an "Association" of the people that live there and not a "Neighborhood".

HOAs suck.


NYCAuburn
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
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I assume they want to verify the vehicle belongs to you and it isn’t a “guest.”
That or they think its a company owned truck.

Tell them to go to hell, they cant do shite. Do you have a company that services the HOA or is it run by members of the neighborhood?
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hungryone
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
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I'm trying to be a good "neighbor" but by their actions they are increasingly making it seem like they only want an "Association" of the people that live there and not a "Neighborhood".

HOAs suck.

Sometimes they do. I've had decent luck with direct conversations with HOA officers--forget email, walk up to the president's house and knock on the door. Politely explain that you provided a photo of the registration, and you're happy to show him the document in question, but you're unwilling for privacy purposes to allow them to retain it. Ask nicely why this is an issue. Listen to his/her responses. See how it goes---it's far easier to bully folks via email or letter....sometimes those bullies collapse like a souffle when directly confronted.


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NASA_ISS_Tiger
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
We have a board of directors who are, in my opinion, merely figureheads. They are elected however they have abdicated all their power to a management group.


NYCAuburn
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
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We have a board of directors who are, in my opinion, merely figureheads. They are elected however they have abdicated all their power to a management group.


Who is demanding the docs?

Either way, I would tell them to refer to the covenants that require this. if they can't, then tell them to have their attorney send the request to your attorney. Should end it.

Id be curios to see where this started. its either a neighbor who made a complaint or the management company overstepping


NASA_ISS_Tiger
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
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Id be curios to see where this started. its either a neighbor who made a complaint or the management company overstepping


I'm curious too. The overstepping point is definitely an issue as well as our BoD just shrugs off what the management company does like it's no big deal.


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DeoreDX
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
You don't have a neighborhood facebook page you can ask ask this question? That way your neighbors like me can pop some popcorn sit back and watch a shitstorm brew

I would ask for the request in writing and tell them to be sure to include what the documentation will be used for and have them highlight the area of the covenant that not only allows the request but what measures may be used to compel compliance with the request.


NASA_ISS_Tiger
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
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You don't have a neighborhood facebook page you can ask ask this question? That way your neighbors like me can pop some popcorn sit back and watch a shitstorm brew



The VP of the BoD is the admin. How's that for nazi control? He wacks threads that he deems "unbecoming" to the association.

With respect to your second paragraph: I will.

Thanks to everyone who's posting here. This has given me food for thought as well as some confidence that I'm not wrong.

I already know (and have evidence to support) that I had an agreement in place for a photo only of the license. So I have that already as a foothold.


MikeBRLA
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
Tell them that you, as a member of the HOA, would like to audit their records to ensure that they have the registration on file of every other vehicle owned by every member of the HOA. (HINT, they don’t have this).

Also ask them to show you where in the recorded HOA bylaws that every member is required to send them a copy of their vehicles’ registration. (HINT, they won’t bc it’s not in them).


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CAD703X
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re: HOA Question....Why would my HOA start requiring my vehicle registration?
HOAs are the absolute worst.

a whole neighborhood of gladys kravits in positions of power.



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