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Has anyone done any research on DIY or Cheaper Pool Lights?
Posted on 9/21/20 at 11:01 am
Posted on 9/21/20 at 11:01 am
Pentair Color LEDs are 600 bucks a piece. This is highway robbery. My pool like are the older variant which are smaller with just a halogen bulb where the socket is epoxied in. So i cant really modify this housing. Anyone found a more reasonable alternative?
I plan to control them myself via HA, not via the pool controller.
For anyone with the newer housing, here is a nice DIY video where he re did his LED for pennys on the dollar.
youtube
I plan to control them myself via HA, not via the pool controller.
For anyone with the newer housing, here is a nice DIY video where he re did his LED for pennys on the dollar.
youtube
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 11:05 am to CarRamrod
Under water pool lights and DIY builder is something I wouldn't try to do. Electric and water just don't mix. 
Posted on 9/21/20 at 11:32 am to CarRamrod
I went with this - Happy with it. LED Pool Light
Posted on 9/21/20 at 11:42 am to fishfighter
quote:time to grow a pair Fish! 120 volt systems are on a GFCI circuits, and some of the newer pool lights are going low voltage.
Under water pool lights and DIY builder is something I wouldn't try to do. Electric and water just don't mix.
This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 11:52 am
Posted on 9/21/20 at 11:51 am to lilsnappa
quote:first i dont want to be limited with a remote. But how is the range. i would not think that signal would go very far. What size was your housing? mine are smaller which i find weird unless there was a time when typical lights got bigger.
I went with this - Happy with it. LED Pool Light
Posted on 9/21/20 at 4:50 pm to CarRamrod
My pentair is 36 volts
LED 40 or so colors
I ainf puttin no frickin 120 V lite in my pool
LED 40 or so colors
I ainf puttin no frickin 120 V lite in my pool
Posted on 9/21/20 at 5:27 pm to CarRamrod
Range is about 30 ft or so. I can control it from inside my house which is all I want/need.
the pool is 15+ years old, so its an older standard light size. I think 12in housing.
the pool is 15+ years old, so its an older standard light size. I think 12in housing.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 8:13 pm to Drop4Loss
Idk what model light you have but the modern pentair lights come in 120v and 12v.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 9:11 pm to Drop4Loss
No prob. The whole 120 around a pool is nothing if you have it on a gfi. Which it 100% should be and code. Any outdoor outlet should be by code.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 9:13 pm to Drop4Loss
I'm just trying to weigh my options my pool needs resurfacing in the next 1-2 years. It I can get a deal on the resurface and a new control installation I might do it. It is just horrible to think to pay 400-600 a light.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 9:44 pm to CarRamrod
Just be sure to make a video like this guy that way if nothing else you can go down in YouTube history 
Posted on 9/22/20 at 10:24 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
No prob. The whole 120 around a pool is nothing if you have it on a gfi. Which it 100% should be and code. Any outdoor outlet should be by code.
Trusting your life to the lowest bidder who ran the electrical in your home and your DIY skills learned from Tigerdroppings.
Although really rare GFCIs do fail.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:14 am to fightin tigers
quote:this board is great.
Trusting your life to the lowest bidder who ran the electrical in your home and your DIY skills learned from Tigerdroppings.
You know you trust your life every day in a car build by the cheapest worker they can find. You trust your life driving around in streets with idiots driving. You people are on a home and garden board where people DIY stuff. You sound like huge pussys. I have wired up 50 amp controllers that control and automated brewing system. some fricking lights in nothing.
quote:and those failures happen when there is no fault detected. i have never read about GFIs failing the opposite way, where it didnt protect from a ground fault.
Although really rare GFCIs do fail.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 9:14 am
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:59 am to CarRamrod
quote:
For anyone with the newer housing, here is a nice DIY video where he re did his LED for pennys on the dollar.
youtube
i was all on board after watching the video then i went into the comments and there's a big debate on whether or not the way he built this could introduce electricity into the water. not sure i'm confident in this approach now; one guy swears it will and another guy says it wont.
i too bought a $100 chinese led light off amazon that literally lasted 6 months then died.
intersting reading about the 'water cooling' vs 'air cooling'. it makes sense if the metal of the light touches the metal of the light housing itself that would stay cooler than trapping a heat sync in an enclosed water tight space with zero air movement.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 3:46 pm to CAD703X
quote:hmmm i dont see how? he didnt do too much different than what Pentair does.
way he built this could introduce electricity into the water.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 3:48 pm to CarRamrod
quote:read the comments.
hmmm i dont see how? he didnt do too much different than what Pentair does.
it has something to do with him using the ground wire for data but then my eyes glazed over when they discussed the various scenarios regarding how he wired things up.
quote:
This isn't true. The DC supply uses a transformer, so the DC negative/ground is isolated from earth.
The extremely dangerous part is the ground line is not just a standard "ground the chassis" connection. It is also part of the bonding that connects all the parts of the pool (pump, heater, SWC, and even the water and rebar in a concrete slab) to make sure there is a better path to ground than going through a swimmer for a lot more than the light. Repurposing that ground line is dangerous.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 9/23/20 at 3:57 pm to CAD703X
i see what they are saying.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:43 pm to CarRamrod
i was scared to change the lightbulb out with the breaker turned off and sitting on a towel on the side of the pool and get it put back correctly. the hell if i'm going to cut open the lighting wiring assembly and solder wires & shite together and hope i'm not going to fry my kids later.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 8:26 pm to CAD703X
Electricity is scary at first but one you learn and take the proper safety measures it's amazing what you can do. Here is my 240 volt 30amp brewery control I built. Don't mine the cable management. Still working on that
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