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Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:02 am
Posted by ironwood
Member since Aug 2021
273 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:02 am
I want to avoid loosing my freezer food again and was going to buy a generator. When trying to decide the generator size I needed to know the starting watts so I contacted my refrigerator manufacturer: Whirlpool. Both on the phone and through email I was told: 1. they do not know and cannot find out the starting watts. So, I decided I'd just go by Champion generator estimates for needed size which seem real wide at 4x's the running watts. 2. I was told by Whirlpool that there are no Whirlpool refrigerators that can be run on a generator or generator inverter. So.... is this just a cya move by Whirlpool? Has anyone run a Whirlpool fridge on a generator?
Posted by southern686
Narnia
Member since Nov 2015
883 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:15 am to
CYA move by Whirlpool.
Get a 2500 Watt generator you will be more than covered.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78908 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:16 am to
Dude, it's a fridge.

So use 1,000W as a go to starting point. All fridges will run on a generator.

Even Whirlpool agrees

Edit: Should've read a freezer, not a fridge, but the point stands.
This post was edited on 9/30/21 at 10:17 am
Posted by ironwood
Member since Aug 2021
273 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:30 am to
Thanks. I saw that page when searching and found the phone and email response inexplicable except maybe they just want to limit liability by not giving info. but then again everything's gone weird for me lately and I thought maybe I was the only person who didn't know of this Whirlpool brand particularity
Posted by ironwood
Member since Aug 2021
273 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:31 am to
thanks
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
34985 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 10:36 am to
When a company gets a call they are used to dealing with complaints. When it's not a direct complaint they are on guard for trying to be trapped by what they say so they'll be in CYA mode.
Posted by ironwood
Member since Aug 2021
273 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 11:18 am to
re OysterPoBoy That's what I was thinking.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16303 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

So, I decided I'd just go by Champion generator estimates for needed size which seem real wide at 4x's the running watts. 2.

When I researched, I think the standard safety range was 3* running watts. It was also suggested that you can usually find your volts & amps on most appliances and just multiply the 2 to get starting watts.

Only appliance in my house I could not find it on was on an old standing freezer, the info is there just can't make it out. It would be the first thing hooked up anyway, so not overly concerned.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4485 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

All fridges will run on a generator.

Mine does not. Not sure if it's from the storm but it kept tripped the GFCI on the generator. Tripped the wall outlet a few times so far since we had power restored also.
Posted by SpeckledTiger
Denham Springs
Member since Jul 2010
1477 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

Not sure if it's from the storm but it kept tripped the GFCI on the generator.


Is the fridge a Samsung? they are known for sending faulty ground signals to GFCI outlets. On your generator, you will need to create a floating neutral to avoid it.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4485 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

Is the fridge a Samsung?

'Tis. Said generator blew up so no longer a problem. Will be establishing an interlock / panel hook up for a new generator going forward when I can decide what I want to do - large portable or permanent standby - which should mitigate that issue.
This post was edited on 9/30/21 at 3:21 pm
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12949 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 3:54 pm to
i have a 2000W start inverter generator that didn't even flinch when my refrigerator compressor would start
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
2917 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 4:18 pm to
Look at the breaker that serves the outlet the fridge is plugged into. It's going to be either a 15 amp (1800 watt) or 20 amp (2400 watt) outlet. As long as your fridge doesn't routinely trip the breaker, using that as a guide will make sure you're covered.
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12949 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 4:46 pm to
that's isn't that good of a measure because (let's use an air conditioner for example - unless you have a soft start) the current your air conditioner pulls to start is well above the breaker rating tied to it, those panel breakers trip based on a time overcurrent curve, in which yes it will trip for the current that an air conditioner pulls during startup - but only if that current lasts for a lot longer than the time it takes to start it
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