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Fixing low spot in yard

Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:23 am
Posted by man117
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2009
674 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:23 am
Hi guys, I need a little advice. My yard is terrible, pretty much all weeds and trash grass at this point. In total it's probably around 10000 sqft of actually grass. I would like to level the whole thing and sod it at once but I'm OT poor. I have a 1000 sqft spot in the front that retains a little bit of water. Since that area is bounded by concrete on all sides, I want to start by fixing that area. I'm in Thibodaux and I read on here that Belle Sod is the closest to me. Just called them and the guy said he's out of St. Aug and probably won't have any until August at the earliest. Also the minimum to deliver is 6 pallets and I only need 2 for this spot.

1. I need about 10 yards of topsoil to level this area. Any suggestions on what type and where to get it?

2. Any suggestions on something I can seed now that will fill in pretty quickly? After reading what I just wrote, I probably should just save money and seed this yard piece by piece.

Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45793 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:36 am to
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1. I need about 10 yards of topsoil to level this area. Any suggestions on what type and where to get it?


Typically you don't want topsoil for this, riversilt or sand is a better option, but if you don't get it from a location that has killed the weed seeds in the dirt, you are introducing more issues into the yard that you are trying to fix.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16537 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:41 am to
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f you don't get it from a location that has killed the weed seeds in the dirt, you are introducing more issues into the yard that you are trying to fix.


Where can you buy riversilt/sand that kill off weed seeds?
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 9:42 am
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45793 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:46 am to
Nurseries that sell bulk material will have it
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78905 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:17 am to
What is it about sand that kills weeds? I've always heard that but never knew the reason behind it.
Posted by marinebioman
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Feb 2005
3396 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:27 am to
I don't want to hijack this thread but I have a somewhat related question. I also want to fill in a low spot in my back yard but my problem is that there is a ditch behind my property and the back corner of my property is slowly eroding but also getting lower as well. The problem with that area is the soil has a very high sand content and the bank of the ditch tends to crumble. I am not willing to pay or legally allowed to put rocks or rip rap on the bank of the ditch since it is county property. For now all i want to do is add material to my property. What fill material would be best to slow down erosion? I realize its likely a temporary fix.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43062 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 11:15 am to
quote:

1. I need about 10 yards of topsoil to level this area. Any suggestions on what type and where to get it?
I just did my yard. Get masonry sand, it settles and packed down well and doesnt have weeds in it like river sand does.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43062 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 11:17 am to
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For now all i want to do is add material to my property. What fill material would be best to slow down erosion? I realize its likely a temporary fix.
IMO, you want something that has a heavy clay mixture that wont wash away as easily as light sand or top soil. Try to find some red dirt or clay and grown grass over it to hold it together. (im no expert just putting my thoughts out there)
Posted by man117
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2009
674 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 11:51 am to
quote:


Typically you don't want topsoil for this, riversilt or sand is a better option, but if you don't get it from a location that has killed the weed seeds in the dirt, you are introducing more issues into the yard that you are trying to fix. 


The area I'm filling has the street to the front and sidewalks/driveway on the other three sides. It slopes towards the street but the very front end is lower than the street so water sits there after a good rain. The area is also lower than the sidewalk/driveway. I want to fill the entire area to be level with the street and concrete so whatever I use will cover the it all. I won't have to worry about the sand washing away in this situation?
Posted by TigerEye2
Prairieville
Member since Aug 2011
308 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:06 pm to
Can you use the bags of Play Sand rather than mason sand?
Posted by Mikey99
Member since Nov 2016
260 posts
Posted on 4/14/19 at 9:55 pm to
Play sand is around 4.50 for a 50# bag and masonry sand is 5.00 for a 70# bag. Just poured 8 bags of masonry sand in a low spot.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 4/14/19 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

Can you use the bags of Play Sand rather than mason sand?


Yes but masonry sand can be delivered by the truckload cheaply enough.

If you really want to go cheap go find you local blast yard, they will dump all you like in your truck for little to nothing.
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Where can you buy riversilt/sand that kill off weed seeds?


You can't.

Typically the river silt at the nurseries have been sitting long enough that some of the seeds have died off, similar to a compost pile, but its not "weed free"

Also you probably aren't getting 10 yards delivered from a nursery.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31674 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:24 am to
You should probably use sand to level. Also use medium blade zoysia and not st aug. Getting better results lately. It’s also more drought tolerant
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:34 am to
quote:

medium blade zoysia

Requires thatching

quote:

more drought tolerant

Probably not an issue in his low spot
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:38 am to
Do what I did, go to a construction site and steal some red clay. It won't wash away and put Bermuda seeds in it.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31674 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:56 am to
Fix the low spot and use a grass that requires less overall care and maintenance
Posted by CenlaLowell
Alexandria, la
Member since Apr 2016
1011 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:41 pm to
Never had a probably with weeds seeds in sand. Step up your pre emergent game and even if the sand had weed seeds they would not grow in your yard.

Pre emergent
Prodiamine
Simizine
Diythpor
Pennant Magnum

This is what I use for year long protection and I will, like last year, buy riversilt next month
Posted by rilesrick
Member since Mar 2015
6704 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:58 pm to
Sand Sand Sand
Posted by TigerGrad2011
Member since Aug 2016
1578 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:58 pm to
Are you in or around BR and where did you get a bulk amount and at what price?
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