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Electrical. Fluorescent to LED

Posted on 1/25/22 at 7:05 pm
Posted by Prix560
Member since Jan 2008
956 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 7:05 pm
My house is currently wired with a fluorescent 4ft 2 bulb light. I'm replacing the fixture with an LED fixture, also 4ft long. The existing fixture is wired with 2 white and 2 black. I tried hooking all 4 wires into the provided connector. It didn't get any power. Would it be better to splice the two splice the like wires together, and the insert onto the connector?
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3789 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

The existing fixture is wired with 2 white and 2 black. I tried hooking all 4 wires into the provided connector. It didn't get any power. Would it be better to splice the two splice the like wires together, and the insert onto the connector?


Do you have multiple fixtures? Are the wires hot when the breaker and switch are on?

You could certainly try pig tailing by tying together then jumping to the fixture. Not sure what the connector you’re talking about is.
Posted by Prix560
Member since Jan 2008
956 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 7:52 pm to
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you have multiple fixtures?


Yes two identical fluorescent fixtures.

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Are the wires hot when the breaker and switch are on?


I think so. The lights used to work, I don't have a means of testing the connection. I'm replacing them because I think the ballasts went bad. Not at the same time.
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Not sure what the connector you’re talking about is.



It is basically a female that allows the wire to insert and lock into place.

I don't think it connects very good when trying to insert 4. Although there are 4 ports.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9774 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 8:07 pm to
Confusing....

Are you removing bulbs or fixtures?

If you're removing the fixture and have wires coming out of the ceiling. Do you just have one black and one white?
Posted by 2 Jugs
Saint Amant
Member since Feb 2018
1843 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 8:12 pm to
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I don't have a means of testing the connection




Then why are you working on anything electrical?

You need to explain the situation better. Include photos if possible.
Posted by PurpleGoldTiger
Thibodaux, LA
Member since Mar 2010
4009 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 8:39 pm to
I'm assuming that the existing wiring coming from the ceiling has an "in" conductor from the power source and an "out" conductor for daisy chaining to the next adjacent light fixture.

I would cut off the pre-fixed connector and wire nut the like colors together.
Posted by tharre4
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
571 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 6:16 am to
they make LED tubes that fit into the fluorescent housing. why go through all that trouble?

Phillips 4' LED
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 7:33 am
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
12120 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:23 pm to
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they make LED tubes that fit into the fluorescent housing. why go through all that trouble?


You don't get as much efficiency as you do bypassing the ballast. I believe its a about a 30% increase.

For the OP. There are several youtube videos on this. I did this for my house and our shop last year. Pretty quick and easy. (Testers are cheap to ensure power is turned off so I would up one).
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29973 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 9:04 am to
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It is basically a female that allows the wire to insert and lock into place.

I don't think it connects very good when trying to insert 4. Although there are 4 ports.


Can you post photos and maybe brand and model number of the new fixture?

ETA: Should buy something like this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-Non-Contact-AC-Voltage-Detector-with-Adjustable-Sensitive-NCVT-8908R/309359414#overlay



or even a kit like this:



This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 9:17 am
Posted by gerald65
Moss Bluff, LA
Member since Jul 2020
710 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 1:21 am to
I converted my shop and a couple other fixtures to LED lights about a year ago. It was fairly easy and greatly improved the lighting.

Turn on lights and then turned off power switch. Take out old fluorescent bulbs. Take off cover to expose wires and ballast. Cut off wires going to the ballast. Removed ballast. Wire nut like color wires together. Some of the wires can be cut shorter to get rid of excess wire.

Reinstall cover plate and new LED bulbs. Turn power back on to be sure the light works. I did 7 fixtures in a couple of hours.
Posted by coonass27
shreveport
Member since Mar 2008
3620 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 5:26 am to
1 get a volt meter
2 you have one light that has then load from the source and the line going to the next fixture nutted together and the current light connected to that tap. Willing to bet that the other light has just one set of wires
3. I have installed many of these as of late. More than likely you have 12/2 wire. The led fixture is like 18 ga. With the connectors landing in that. Makes no sense from the mfg of these as if you are going to put in push connectors, make them the size of normal instal methods.
5. Cut that shite off, stop the jacket abs wire nut
6. Make sure you tap is inside the fixture or in a junction box
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