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Another weed/grass ID

Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:33 am
Posted by Special K
Member since Jun 2011
1100 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:33 am
I came back from vacation and had this tall grass in my front yard. What am I looking at?




Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1732 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:51 am to
Crabgrass. Looks like some bahiagrass or carpetgrass seed heads in there, too.
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 10:03 am
Posted by Clint Torres
Member since Oct 2011
2659 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:57 am to
maybe last one is carpet grass? ronk?
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5264 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:58 am to
Crabgrass. ronk will know which kind. With a St Augustine lawn, no great post-emergent herbicide you can use without harming the St Augustine.

But being an annual weed, you can effectively control it with pre-emergent herbicides applied late winter/early spring (early to mid-Feb in south Louisiana). Seeds germinate when soil temp hit 55 F.

Prodiamine (cheaper) or Dimension (dithiopyr) would be the pre-emergents of choice. Dimension has some post-emergent control on very young crabgrass if you miss the window for early application of prodiamine in Feb.
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 10:07 am
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5264 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:02 am to
quote:

bahiagrass seed heads in there, too.

I thought that as well initially, but looking closely I think it’s just the orientation of picture.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11665 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:09 am to
If it pulls up easily and the little tendrils (correct word?) are soft, then it's smooth crabgrass. It's a fricking pain in the arse. I have celsius'ed it, pre-emerge'ed it. It's just a royal pain. It seems to stay in one spot which has been good but I can't eradicate it.
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 10:11 am
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5264 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:36 am to
quote:

TheWiz

Yeah it appears to be smooth crabgrass as the leaves are not hairy.

I had 1 fairly large area of crabgrass, very thick, in the neutral ground several years ago, but I have centipede so I could knock it back with sethoxydim. But I started using Dimension pre-emerge in late winter about 3 years ago, and I easily had a 90% reduction In the crabgrass that year. 2nd year of use, for all practical purposes gone. Today I seriously have to look hard to find a few crabgrass plants in that same area.

You do have to apply the pre-emergent early though, by mid Feb in the BTR area, and this year the AgCenter recommended early Feb because of the unusually warm winter.
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 11:37 am
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
2917 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 1:07 pm to
Time to mow maybe?
Posted by Special K
Member since Jun 2011
1100 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 1:31 pm to
Great, I’ll get Dimension for next year then. Wife is gonna be super happy when I tell her I’m buying more lawn shite lol. Feels like it’s 1 step forward 2 steps back but I’ve seen some good results this year so I’ll keep trucking along.

Definitely need a cut just wanted to let it grow out so these guys could get a good look at it.
Posted by gamecocks22
SC
Member since Dec 2012
4913 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 8:07 pm to
If you have crabgrass in St Augustine you can try a low rate of Tenacity or either Celsius post emerge.

You really have to pre emerge St Aug for crabgrass with with either prodiamine, dimension, or specticle.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6164 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 7:06 am to
It's smooth crabgrass. Specticle is awesome but just make sure you use the St Aug rate. Also, do not do two apps of it. It won't kill it but it will set it back.
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