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re: Update: Running my first marathon
Posted on 4/12/23 at 1:00 pm to MarlboroTiger
Posted on 4/12/23 at 1:00 pm to MarlboroTiger
quote:yea thats gonna be tough to swing honestly.
My longest so far has been 6.2
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 6:47 am to MarlboroTiger
I remember watching a buzzfeed video on YouTube on a girl running her first marathon with 10 weeks of training with a running coach by her side and even that is crazy. Like everybody said, don't do it. I'm training for one in the end of Sept and have done a few halfs, but training for a marathon is a whole different beast. Really think on this and look up training schedules
Posted on 4/13/23 at 1:18 pm to MarlboroTiger
I have run 8 marathons and probably 30 half’s. I agree with everyone here and would advise you not to jump into a full without logging several 20+ mile training runs.
Otherwise you will fail and hurt yourself or just hate the experience. Be smart and enjoy the process. Good luck bro.
Otherwise you will fail and hurt yourself or just hate the experience. Be smart and enjoy the process. Good luck bro.
Posted on 4/14/23 at 5:12 am to MarlboroTiger
Thats insane. You could probably get a half done maybe
Posted on 4/14/23 at 9:39 am to TomballTiger
Going for it with no "training" is all relative to your expectations. Can you finish, yes. Will it suck, most likely. Will it hurt, yes. will you get injured, probably not but who knows. I say yolo and give it a go. if you drop or get a "bad" time who cares. you gave it a try and now can actually train if its something you want to do again.
This post was edited on 4/14/23 at 9:45 am
Posted on 4/14/23 at 11:58 am to ks_nola
Well said…I know a guy who ran a marathon this year, with his longest training run being 13 miles. He finished…it took him over 5 hours but he still finished. He said it really sucked though 
Posted on 4/15/23 at 2:15 pm to ks_nola
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Going for it with no "training" is all relative to your expectations. Can you finish, yes. Will it suck, most likely. Will it hurt, yes. will you get injured, probably not but who knows. I say yolo and give it a go. if you drop or get a "bad" time who cares. you gave it a try and now can actually train if its something you want to do again.
I get it, I do, but I'm also cautious to tell someone to yolo a marathon. At best it's a miserable experience but he learns from it, at worst he gets a stress fracture or tears something. Then there is the "normal / average" response which is him finishing but having had such a horrible time doing it, it either knocks him off his training for weeks / months or he just kinda slowly stops and walks away with the typical American mindset of "well that just wasn't for me" when it was, his 10k times prove he's on a good path.
This post was edited on 4/15/23 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 4/16/23 at 5:59 pm to BaddestAndvari
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I get it, I do, but I'm also cautious to tell someone to yolo a marathon. At best it's a miserable experience but he learns from it, at worst he gets a stress fracture or tears something.
Thank you guys for all of your responses, I’ve been taking the training and diet very seriously. I ran a half marathon today in 2 hours and 10 minutes. I was shooting for under 2 hours and cruised through first 9 miles, but my legs got heavy around mile 10. Going to keep working on getting more miles on my legs
Posted on 4/16/23 at 7:53 pm to MarlboroTiger
I ran my first half at age 48 and got the whole Marathon thing out of my system.
If I were you I would train zone 2 for the next 3 months then start a dedicated program and run the Louisiana Marathon next January.
If I were you I would train zone 2 for the next 3 months then start a dedicated program and run the Louisiana Marathon next January.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 7:55 pm to Vastmind
Also. You should keep an eye on your heart rate variability.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:39 am to MarlboroTiger
I ran 2 marathons and I agree with several posters who said that you’re not giving yourself enough time to build up to that distance.
There are several training plans out there but I think 3 months or more is typical.
You also need to consider the season. It’s difficult to train for extremely long distances during our summer (assuming you’re in LA). For a winter marathon, lots of your long training runs will be in high heat and humidity conditions. I ran most of mine at night.
Good luck!
I’m old and can’t run anymore due to a bone spur on my vertebrae and subsequent surgery. I really miss it.
There are several training plans out there but I think 3 months or more is typical.
You also need to consider the season. It’s difficult to train for extremely long distances during our summer (assuming you’re in LA). For a winter marathon, lots of your long training runs will be in high heat and humidity conditions. I ran most of mine at night.
Good luck!
I’m old and can’t run anymore due to a bone spur on my vertebrae and subsequent surgery. I really miss it.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:17 am to MarlboroTiger
Agree with many responses here. Even a half marathon is different world than a marathon. I fully believe a lot of people are capable of endurance feats that most think are unattainable. I did triathlon for several years and completed half and full Ironman's alongside training team members who were 60+ and by no means superhuman athletes. Even having done a full Ironman, I never got to do a stand alone marathon. My IM run was a some of planned walking/shuffling through aid stations along with a lot of unplanned walking/shuffling :haha:. When I have trained for a stand along marathon, even having a very high level of fitness, I got hurt on a 15 mile run. And that injury nagged me for nearly 2 years.
I fell out of endurance sports because of it (plus covid and having a kid) and am now 50 lbs heavier. I didn't respect the run training because I had done "more" than a marathon several months before. Don't take it lightly. Running injuries don't hurt as bad as broken bones, but they don't go away very easily. 6 months of sitting on my arse and it came back as soon as I'd start running. It required serious effort in physical therapy and muscle activation to fix.
I fell out of endurance sports because of it (plus covid and having a kid) and am now 50 lbs heavier. I didn't respect the run training because I had done "more" than a marathon several months before. Don't take it lightly. Running injuries don't hurt as bad as broken bones, but they don't go away very easily. 6 months of sitting on my arse and it came back as soon as I'd start running. It required serious effort in physical therapy and muscle activation to fix.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:11 am to Jon A thon
Marlboro tiger
so you got responses on both ends of the spectrum. Give it a go with no expectations and maybe get hurt and or hate the experience and never run again. Or train for months and have a "very high level of fitness" and still get hurt and never run again. there is no correct response as everyone is different.
you can finish 26. if finish is your goal, it is achievable.
so you got responses on both ends of the spectrum. Give it a go with no expectations and maybe get hurt and or hate the experience and never run again. Or train for months and have a "very high level of fitness" and still get hurt and never run again. there is no correct response as everyone is different.
you can finish 26. if finish is your goal, it is achievable.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:14 am to ks_nola
Agree totally with ks here, and I'm sure he has a better pedigree and more experience than 100% of the other posters in this thread.
and I happen to be in this camp right now, so anything can happen.
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Or train for *years and have a "very high level of fitness" and still get hurt
and I happen to be in this camp right now, so anything can happen.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:15 am to ks_nola
quote:The odds of this outcome are way less likely than if you give it a go without proper training. Not that it's guaranteed without proper training but at minimum youre going to hate life sooner into the run (and for more of it) than you would otherwise.
Or train for months and have a "very high level of fitness" and still get hurt and never run again.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:48 am to Pedro
I have no pedigree, just ran a few miles here and there and along the way have gotten injured (currently) several times. Expectations is the key. If Malboro thinks its going be a cake walk and boston qualify then he's high but if he knows its gonna be a long day and will have a difficult time sitting down for a few days but still can finish then its worth a shot. I've said this before, I missed out on a lot of race experiences in the past because i was afraid to toe the line for various reasons.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:48 am to Pedro
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odds of this outcome are way less likely than if you give it a go without proper training.
This is what I meant most of all by my post. Not that you should or shouldn't go for it. But have a lot of respect for proper training and don't take overloading/changing traditiona though lightly. You may cut corners or push harder than traditional advice would suggest, and not get injured and have a good result. I wouldn't go so far as to say you are just lucky if that was the outcome, but you are tempting fate. I had a "that won't happen to me" attitude and felt like those were just guidelines for other people.
For reference. My IM training was under the supervision of a coach. Marathon was on my own.
You can certainly hurt yourself no matter how experienced you are.
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afraid to toe the line for various reasons.
I agree that you can't let this happen. My wife is an example. She has never been a runner. To her, she thinks she needs a year of training to run a 5k. I think she can do couch to half marathon in 6 months. We can do more than we think we can. I just think you have to really gauge the jump you are taking from a 10k to marathon. Not to give up, but really think hard an know what you are getting into.
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 10:02 am
Posted on 4/17/23 at 11:21 am to ks_nola
I get what youre saying for sure. But there's definitely a middle ground. If this is a one off and the only marathon he ever wants to do than yea yolo. But if its something he thinks he may be interested in doing again I'd just hate to see him have a bad experience and then completely hate marathoning and never do it again because of it.
I think alot of my line of thinking comes from the stance I take as a high school/middle school coach. I just want my kids to appreciate running the way I do and want to keep doing it after their done. Yes I have competition expectations and everything but just having an enjoyment for the sport is priority one for me. So hearing someone wanting to do something that likely wont end in that is hard for me to advise doing.
I think alot of my line of thinking comes from the stance I take as a high school/middle school coach. I just want my kids to appreciate running the way I do and want to keep doing it after their done. Yes I have competition expectations and everything but just having an enjoyment for the sport is priority one for me. So hearing someone wanting to do something that likely wont end in that is hard for me to advise doing.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:54 pm to Pedro
For anyone interested in keeping up with this, I’m 17 days out from the race and am planning on doing my longest run of 18 miles early next week and then tapering down from there. I haven’t had any alcohol, fast or fried food in over a month and am feeling great (knocks on wood). I purchased some NEM natural eggshell membrane from Amazon and it seems to be working well. I’ve been running in On Clouds but have noticed that most elite runners run in Saucony’s, so I’m considering getting a pair this weekend and having them good and broken in by race day. If anyone has any experience with Sauconey’s or any advice in general it would be much appreciated
Posted on 5/4/23 at 9:07 am to MarlboroTiger
quote:not necessarily. Alot of guys that were in the top 5 at boston were in Adidas.
but have noticed that most elite runners run in Saucony’s
Saucony's are great though, if it works for your foot, which is the key. Ive always loved the freedoms. Know alot of people that run in the endorphin and love it. If youre wanting to switch it up id go to a specialty store and get fitted to make sure youre getting the right shoe for you.
Ive been training in New Balance 860's this cycle and like them alot. Do my speed work in Adidas Adios Boosts (older shoes that still have some life) and am racing in Adidas Adios Pro 2's (carbon plated racers)
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