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Gaming computer specs questions
Posted on 6/13/13 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 6/13/13 at 7:27 pm
If I was to spec out a solid gaming computer for my son, what would you recommends the specs to be.
Brand
Platform
Processor
Memory
Etc
He is 14, doesnt need to break the bank. I would prefer to spec a laptop so he can also use it for school. This is spurred by his interest in computers and online XBOX play
Brand
Platform
Processor
Memory
Etc
He is 14, doesnt need to break the bank. I would prefer to spec a laptop so he can also use it for school. This is spurred by his interest in computers and online XBOX play
Posted on 6/13/13 at 7:33 pm to supatigah
Gaming is the end goal? Desktop is better for that but you can game on a laptop. Does it need to be max setting at 1080 or just playable?
Posted on 6/13/13 at 7:37 pm to Mr Gardoki
We will hook it up to a 30" LCD HDTV for the monitor
ETA I started this thread for him to read and learn. I don't really know much about higher end computer specs. What he learns from this thread and the big 98 page PC thread will guide him into specs for a computer he buys
ETA I started this thread for him to read and learn. I don't really know much about higher end computer specs. What he learns from this thread and the big 98 page PC thread will guide him into specs for a computer he buys
This post was edited on 6/13/13 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 6/13/13 at 9:59 pm to supatigah
What kind of budget are you looking at?
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:37 pm to brucevilanch
I think $700-1200 is a good range
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:52 pm to supatigah
Daaaaaaaad, I told you not to make this thread. You're embarrassing me!
Posted on 6/13/13 at 11:03 pm to sbr2
Go get some ice cream and let the grown ups talk lil'supa
Posted on 6/13/13 at 11:12 pm to supatigah
Posted on 6/13/13 at 11:46 pm to supatigah
quote:
We will hook it up to a 30" LCD HDTV for the monitor
Just a warning, unless you're just used to it, it won't look very good for reading/browsing. But you can plug it in and decide for yourself. If you don't like it, monitors aren't all that expensive.
Before you spec a laptop, it's extremely important to draw a thick line between what you need it to do and what you want it to do. A few factors to consider:
1. Gaming: Not just "do you want it to be a gaming laptop?" but more precisely:
a. Do you want it to be able to run new, graphic-intensive games like Crysis 3 at high-ish settings?
b. Do you just want to be able to play some casual games (Less demanding games and free to play stuff on steam and the like)?
c. Or something in between? Like being able to at least run new mainstream games at low-mid settings?
2. Non-Gaming Tasks: Photoshop, video encoding, 3d modeling, etc. going to be something he does a lot? Or will it be note-taking, internet research, TD browsing, flash games, porn when you're not looking, etc.?
3. Portability: With perhaps a few expensive exceptions, a powerhouse gaming PC is going to be heavy, probably 17"+ (a few are 15"), with a shorter battery life. My current laptop is 17.3" and barely fits in my laptop backpack. Never found a laptop case for it locally, but they can be had online. It was a great gaming laptop for its time, but it's 3 years later and plays Black Ops II at very reduced settings. Nowadays it's mostly a big heavy work/browsing machine with a 2-hour battery life and a loud GPU exhaust fan. I rarely take it out of the house, and I hate when I have to, especially when I have to travel somewhere for work. Not nearly enough room to sit in my lap, let alone open it, on a plane, even in business class.
Just consider how this laptop will be used on a day-to-day basis. How often will it need to run on battery, how often and how far will it be carried around (will he be taking notes in class with it?), etc.
Try to make some definitive choices about what is most important. If you decide that portability and high-end performance are important, you may want to consider splitting your budget between a $400-ish netbook (light, small, long battery life) and an $800 gaming desktop. That's probably more than you want to take on, though.
LINK There's a laptop I would consider a decent compromise among portability and gaming performance. It has a GeForce GTX 660M which is an ok graphics card, and even better because the 14" screen is only 1366x768, less taxing on that GPU for mobile gaming.
If portability is not necessary at all, a much better use of your money would be to build a more powerful desktop system (and even have some money left over for a real monitor). It will do everything he would ever need it to do with very little compromise necessary, except it won't unplug and fit in a backpack.
This post was edited on 6/13/13 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 6/13/13 at 11:56 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Another thing about using the tv is that theres a noticeable difference in input lag and response time compared to a monitor thats meant for that purpose, especially if he's going to be playing fps games on it. That was my experience anyway. I used my tv till I got a proper monitor and my gaming experience went up greatly afterwards.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 12:13 am to brucevilanch
Great info
Thanks guys
He is reading the long thread and monitoring this one as well. We appreciate the insight
Thanks guys
He is reading the long thread and monitoring this one as well. We appreciate the insight
Posted on 6/14/13 at 12:17 am to supatigah
I have a PC that plays pr0n pretty well at 1440p 
Posted on 6/14/13 at 12:19 am to supatigah
No problem. Hopefully it will turn into a hobby for him. I built mine for gaming but I started enjoying the more enthusiast side of it at the moment.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 12:37 am to brucevilanch
Speaking to Tiga Jr.: If you do decide that portability isn't important and build a desktop, I think you'll absolutely discover a new hobby -- it can be an expensive hobby, but incredibly practical for the transferable knowledge you'll get. Learn the basic components of a PC and what they do, and you'll eventually find it pretty intuitive to tinker around with other inferior electronics, like DVD players, consoles, smartphones, etc.
And nerdy is the "in" thing with teens these days, isn't it? Find a dumb chick who left her iphone on the roof of her car, and replace her cracked screen. Guarantee she'll let you install that solid state boot drive in her pink Dell. And she'll also have sex with you.
And nerdy is the "in" thing with teens these days, isn't it? Find a dumb chick who left her iphone on the roof of her car, and replace her cracked screen. Guarantee she'll let you install that solid state boot drive in her pink Dell. And she'll also have sex with you.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 12:43 am to ILikeLSUToo
Oh hell yes. Be ready to be a grandfather in the next 2 years if you build him a desktop.
Especially if he reads the OT already.
Especially if he reads the OT already.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 1:20 am to supatigah
pretty much will play anything on high settings for less than $1000
This is just a jumping off point. The case is obviously a personal preference, you can go a lot cheaper but I did that and now I regret it because of the lack of room for watercooling and wire management. You can go a lot cheaper but that build has enough power to last you for a couple of years.
The other guys will be more than willing to hook you up with an Intel build but I'm an AMD guy at the moment.
This is just a jumping off point. The case is obviously a personal preference, you can go a lot cheaper but I did that and now I regret it because of the lack of room for watercooling and wire management. You can go a lot cheaper but that build has enough power to last you for a couple of years.
The other guys will be more than willing to hook you up with an Intel build but I'm an AMD guy at the moment.
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 1:26 am
Posted on 6/14/13 at 1:34 am to brucevilanch
I'm an Intel guy only because AMD doesn't offer a processor better/faster than the one I wanted. I've built tons of AMD machines. For me, when the budget dictates the need for a sub-$200 processor, I very frequently recommend AMD, depending on the expected use of the PC. I just don't want to hear anyone arguing that the 8350 is similar in performance to a 3770k or beyond. Just ain't in the same class or price point. EDIT: for high-end gaming at least
I agree with the build you linked. Except for the case, but that's all personal preference.
I agree with the build you linked. Except for the case, but that's all personal preference.
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 1:40 am
Posted on 6/14/13 at 1:37 am to ILikeLSUToo
quote:
I just don't want to hear anyone arguing that the 8350 is similar in performance to a 3770k or beyond. Just ain't in the same class or price point.
I agree with you 100%. The only reason that I'm sticking with AMD is because of the price points and the upgrade path for the foreseeable future.
Yeah, that case is meh.
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 1:39 am
Posted on 6/14/13 at 8:38 am to brucevilanch
From what I have read the hyper 212 evo cools better than the plus. I have never used the plus, just the evo. That system linked will smoke everything in 1080, except maybe crysis... but get used to that... 
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