Am I late noticing USC’s recent ranking in US News?

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Maryland has had a pipeline down here in recent years

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This explains the surprisingly large amount of Gamecock fans I've met in DC.

Maryland has the pipeline? I could have sworn from my time at Carolina it would have been New Jersey. I roomed with 3 jersey boys in bates west my freshman year and over half of my floor came from jersey.

At my time it was NY/NJ (I’ll just group them the same)
Ohio and DMV

And this was within the last 5 years

I would say Boston/NE too (the fraternity Chis Psi was basically all New England kids)

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Are there any good ole boys left?

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Probably can’t get into college?

Or just not going.

Tuition so expensive and student loan debt so high, probably better off for them going to a trade school or something

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Ohio and DMV

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I may be wrong and I'll double check but I think she told us Ohio was number two. Maryland then Ohio.

As it was explained to us we have paid recruiters actually working those two states, along with Michigan who I seem to remember was #3 maybe ... but we have paid recruiters working those states trying to pull some of their best and brightest outta there with the lure of lower tuition.

The objective is to build a stronger alumni base will to give back and to raise our SAT standards. It's all about building toward becoming a research University like Mizzou, Vandy and Florida.

ETA: The wife just woke up to go do her thing and when she came back to bed I asked if she remembered what Wes and one of his girls told us at the fall dinner.

I was wrong.

We are up to 45% of our enrollment of 50k ... are out of state students.

She said they told us Georgia is #1, North Carolina #2, Maryland #3, Virginia #4, Ohio #5, Michigan #6, and she thinks New Jersey is #7 ... or either New York but she may be getting the New Jersey and New York thing confused with what they told us about Coastal Carolina.

She said we are now the #3 fastest growing flagship University in the country but we're leveling off until we build more classrooms and housing.

She reminded me what they told us about why they take so many out of state students. She said it's because we make more money on out of state students plus a lot of them stay and live and work here in SC afterwards. Also, it brings millions and millions of dollars into the local economy when parents and family come to visit them. Some mumblings then she turned the light back off and told me to leave her alone so she can go back to sleep because she has a meeting in the morning then woke up to ask me if I set the alarm and would I go get her a bottle of water.

lol ... I love this woman. She doesn't miss a beat. Even half asleep.

Oh, and she said, and I remember this, that the SAT standards have gone up so much that fewer instate students are qualifying and that's a major problem state legislators are going to be addressing next year ... and they'll probably do something to frick it all up.

I do know that Pastides made some enemies being very critical of our public education system in this state but our board argues that there are plenty of other schools in state that students can attend who do not qualify for our main campus.

ETA2: She just woke up and rolled over and told me a couple of other things I just didn't remember. She said the program was encouraged by Bob McNair several years ago and is named something like Importing Academic Intellectuals or something like that. She said I was nodding off when they were talking about this ... they said that while SAT standards have been raised it's been at a cost to instate applicants who no longer qualify, especially African-Americans, and that African-American enrollment at USC is down something like 10% since 2008 and those people are raising hell about it and want back in. But it's been such a book for the university that we don't want it changed and will fight it with state legislators during the next few sessions.

She also said McNair was proud of how many Texans are now enrolling at South Carolina, as well as Californians, and he always reminded everyone that he was an out of state students ... especially when he gave the school $30 million dollars.

I kinda do remember something about that but I also remember her elbowing me in the ribs that night because she claimed my head flopped back and I started snoring when Wes was talking ... and everyone laughed, which I kinda remember.

Anyways, this has been an interesting conversation.

A lot of things are going to change with this next President.

Interesting stuff Rooster. As I said in my OP and you also said, the University makes more money from out of state students. I wasn’t aware of all the other positives to an OOS student that you mentioned.

I have a relative who is retired from USC and still attends annual “State of USC” meetings. She told me several years ago the speaker said at a meeting that USC’s public funding from state government is below 10% of the cost per student. So apparently 90% of USC’s budget is coming from sources other than state government.

I assume all state schools are in the same situation as USC regarding lack of public funding. If you check student enrollment at Coastal Carolina I think you’ll see they are now over 50% out of state students.

It might be hard for state government to threaten state schools to force more in state students and/or minority students if the state is providing so little funding.

Regarding in state enrollment and increasing diversity, the University of Texas does something interesting. A buddy who lives in Dallas told me that to be admitted to UT a stident must finish in the top 10% of graduating class. So, no matter how poor the high school may be, if a kid graduates from an awful high school but finishes top 10% then that kid gets into UT over a kid that was just outside of 10% but at a highly regarded high school.

My buddy’s step daughter went to a highly regarded private all girls high school in Dallas with almost perfect high school scores, but due to the quality of student at the high school she didn’t graduate in top 10%. She couldn’t get into UT. She did however get into Notre Dame, a higher rated school academically.

IBG - aren’t you working in Manhattan in finance? My friend’s stepdaughter that went to Notre Dame is a financial analyst in Manhattan. She’s been up there since she graduated from ND, about 4 years. Her fiancé, also a ND grad, works there as well.

My friend’s stepdaughter is one of those people who makes a person feel like they’re not doing nearly enough with their life. She walked on to Notre Dame’s women’s soccer team and ended up winning a national championship with them, works on Wall Street, decided to start running marathons after college and recently timed just a couple minutes slow in the Chicago Marathon from qualifying for Olympic trials.

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If you had a certain GPA and SAT from the State of Georgia you got into UGA. 

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Not sure when you applied, but I was the GA kid in SCL's pledge class, and this wasn't accurate in the early Aughts. The state of GA paid your tuition if you kept a GPA above 3.+ while attending a state school, but it made it harder to get in, not easier. We saw admissions standards skyrocket for GT and UGA in the late 90s, and it hasn't gotten any better.

I got in to UGA and USC, but USC's scholarship package was, for an out of state student, very competitive with the UGA/HOPE package. I wanted out of Georgia, so off to Carolina I went.