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Attn: R2R - Matt Cain question
Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:18 am
Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:18 am
I was offered Cain overnight in my league for Gallardo. Normally I wouldn't be able to click accept fast enough. Cain has been bad though. His hr rate has spiked. Do you think he will be fine or is he possibly injured? I was burned by Timmy Jim all last season so I don't want to deal with that again.
Anyone else buying or selling Matt Cain right now? What is your opinion of him going forward?
Anyone else buying or selling Matt Cain right now? What is your opinion of him going forward?
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:21 am to RollDatRoll
He'll be fine. Accept immediately.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:23 am to reddman
Thanks. Wanted to make sure I wasn't over-thinking this.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:58 am to RollDatRoll
I have Matt Cain and have been disappointed with him so far.
Don't have any plans to get rid of him though.
Don't have any plans to get rid of him though.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:04 am to RollDatRoll
Buy.
He will be fine.
He will be fine.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:48 am to RollDatRoll
I agree. Take the deal. He will work it out.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:28 am to RollDatRoll
Why not just hold Gallardo? 
Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:56 am to GynoSandberg
Cain vs Gallardo since 2009
ERA- 2.93 vs 3.69 (Cain)
WHIP- 1.10 vs 1.29 (Cain)
K/9- 7.35 vs 9.40 (Gallardo)
WINS- 55 vs 60 (Gallardo)
Why not keep the one who pitching better this season?
ERA- 2.93 vs 3.69 (Cain)
WHIP- 1.10 vs 1.29 (Cain)
K/9- 7.35 vs 9.40 (Gallardo)
WINS- 55 vs 60 (Gallardo)
Why not keep the one who pitching better this season?
Posted on 4/30/13 at 11:00 am to GynoSandberg
In general, I think Cain is better pitcher(see ERA and WHIP). I'll take that guy. His k's may end up being lower but I don't think the difference will be much. I think Yovanni's big sell is his strikeouts, but he isn't striking anyone out so far this year.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 11:05 am to RollDatRoll
Since Cain has been in the big leagues, his xfip has been about a run higher than his era for the year (excluding this year).
Maybe it's just finally catching up to him?
2007 - 3.65 era, 4.47 xfip
2008 - 3.76, 4.46
2009 - 2.89, 4.16
2010 - 3.14, 4.00
2011 - 2.88, 3.78
2012 - 2.79, 3.82
Maybe it's just finally catching up to him?
2007 - 3.65 era, 4.47 xfip
2008 - 3.76, 4.46
2009 - 2.89, 4.16
2010 - 3.14, 4.00
2011 - 2.88, 3.78
2012 - 2.79, 3.82
This post was edited on 4/30/13 at 11:15 am
Posted on 4/30/13 at 11:11 am to MrWiseGuy
He'd have a lot more catching up to do than that
he'll be fine
he'll be fine
This post was edited on 4/30/13 at 11:12 am
Posted on 4/30/13 at 11:25 am to RollDatRoll
Meh. There are like 10 guys who will K 200 year in and year out. While Cain's ERA/WHIP are nice, Gallardo's big K numbers and decent ERA/WHIP level them off a bit for me. Couple that with Cain's slow start and you really are better off just staying put.
Gallardo routinely underachieves in April throughout his career. August ERA obviously sucks.
April- 4.13 and K/9 of 7.3
May- 2.77 and 9.1
June- 2.97 and 9.9
July- 3.40 and 8.6
August- 4.83 and 9.7
September- 3.64 and 9.9
Im not saying Cain is bad at all. I just dont see the need for the risk.
Gallardo routinely underachieves in April throughout his career. August ERA obviously sucks.
April- 4.13 and K/9 of 7.3
May- 2.77 and 9.1
June- 2.97 and 9.9
July- 3.40 and 8.6
August- 4.83 and 9.7
September- 3.64 and 9.9
Im not saying Cain is bad at all. I just dont see the need for the risk.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 3:30 pm to RollDatRoll
I'd pull the trigger on that in a heartbeat. Perhaps speaking from a biased perspective but I think Cain has a larger upside going forward and I'll take two pitching cats for Cain (ERA & WHIP) over one for Gallard (K's). They're about even on wins/QS .. if your league uses those.
I think this bad start is an anomaly and he'll be fine. Also you can do what I do which is use SP with moderate K's but solid on ERA and WHIP and supplement them with high K relief pitchers.
I think this bad start is an anomaly and he'll be fine. Also you can do what I do which is use SP with moderate K's but solid on ERA and WHIP and supplement them with high K relief pitchers.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 3:38 pm to Rohan2Reed
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