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HailHailtoMichigan!
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Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
Does Bernie Sanders not know this? Saw him on a Sunday show spouting this off

When Bernie Sanders says that “no one working full time should be in poverty”, what he really is saying is that the minimum wage should be high enough to provide for children.

That makes no sense. The fact that you have kids shouldn’t remotely matter when it comes to what wage you deserve.

100% of the people in poverty working full time have children. That was their choice.

There is zero legit argument that an employer should pay someone more because that person has kids


the808bass
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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
Two people working full-time $12/hr jobs will make $50k a year. More than enough to live.

The biggest myth of the working poor in the US is that there are working poor.


JesusQuintana
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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
Bernie always rails on large corporations about increasing the minimum wage without realizing they already pay their workers that or better and tasing the minimum wage (to the level he wants) will either squash small business or force them to remove staff/cut hours.


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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
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100% of the people in poverty working full time have children. That was their choice


Clearly you do not understand the mission of planned parenthood. The only choice is abortion, otherwise you are conscripting women into sex slavery.


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gthog61
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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
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Bernie always rails on large corporations about increasing the minimum wage without realizing they already pay their workers that or better and tasing the minimum wage (to the level he wants) will either squash small business or force them to remove staff/cut hours.



He knows all that. Leftists want to destroy small business because big business is mostly in bed with them.


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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
Bernie likes to single out the fast food workers making $8 hr


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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
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More than enough to live.


the808bass
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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
It is. Whether you like it or not. There’s no guarantee to iPhones and Netflix or a pool in your apartment complex. You have to earn those.


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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
I say this as a dad who loves his kids and wouldn’t trade them for the world: I would have a hell of a lot more money in the bank if I was single with no kids.


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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
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There’s no guarantee to iPhones and Netflix or a pool in your apartment complex. You have to earn those.



Stop trying to hold people down with your draconian views. People in this day and age need iPhones in order to apply for jobs and they need Netflix in order to relax and escape from the drudgery of living a life of poverty. Don't you understand how important mental health is? Without government-paid-for Netflix and the latest iPhone to watch it on, people will commit suicides in the billions. DAILY!

Why do you want poor people to die?



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Pleasenewdc
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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
Opportunities exist everywhere. They are poor because of their choices, not because of the color of their skin or any other perceived hardship. They want the American dream without having to work for it because they’re fricking lazy.


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cooLStorybreaUx
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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
7.25 x 40 x 52 = 15,080 before taxes and insurance. Is that not considered poverty? If your rent is $750, which is low to average, that leaves you $6000 for electric, food, car, gas, plus whatever taxes and insurance cost. That's poverty whether you have kids or not.


the808bass
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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
If you’re making $7.25 and you’re 22, you have issues far beyond the wage you’re earning.


BayBengal9
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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
Who pays 7.25 an hour? The fast food workers in Podunk, MS that has the lowest cost of living in the country make 10.


the808bass
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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
The Target up the street is paying $15/hr. Hobby Lobby’s average wage is over $14. If you’re full-time, it’s $17.

If you want to work, you’ll make enough money to survive.


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cooLStorybreaUx
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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
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Who pays 7.25 an hour? The fast food workers in Podunk, MS that has the lowest cost of living in the country make 10.


I agree that many people don't make that, but the thread literally says minimum wage. I was just making a point.


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Lawyered
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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
And a living wage is not the same as in NYC vs MS for example

They say it as it’s a one size fits all income type



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BoomBamBop
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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
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Two people working full-time $12/hr jobs will make $50k a year. More than enough to live.

The biggest myth of the working poor in the US is that there are working poor.


A married couple where both earn $12/hour make less than 40k combined in take-home pay. A single person making $12/hour working time takes home about 20k a year.

That's pretty fricking hard on people. Plus, these are typically dead end jobs with no way to move up.
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the808bass
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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
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I'll take completely out of touch with reality for $1000, Alex.


Take it up with the BLS.


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Pleasenewdc
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re: Somebody working full time (no kids) earning minimum wage earns above the poverty line.
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A married couple where both earn $12/hour make less than 40k combined in take-home pay. A single person making $12/hour working time takes home about 20k a year.

That's pretty fricking hard on people. Plus, these are typically dead end jobs with no way to move up.


How is this anyone’s burden to bear but their own? I worked hard in high school, took out loans as needed for college, now have a good job, and paid off my student loans. That was MY choice and mine alone.

If these people really wanted to make life advancements, they’d get off their asses and work for it. If someone works at Target, Walmart, McDonalds or any other place that doesn’t pay well enough to live, that’s on them. My tax dollars should not have to support their poor work ethic.

I shared classrooms with dozens of minorities that received free grant money for college. I’ve lost 2 potential contracts to “minority owned companies.” Opportunity is everywhere. Many of these people have no interest in opportunity, they just want handouts.


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