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Posted on 9/13/21 at 9:09 pm to 257WBY
High fence on a multi thousand acre plot isn’t an issue IMO. Those animals are unlikely to ever feel restricted.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:15 am to SulphursFinest
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Texas is not a bragging point, a red stag killed in New Zealand is.
Most of the monster stags you see come out of New Zealand are also high fence kills.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:35 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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95% of the private land hunters are sitting in a box stand watching a corn pile.
we have 2 boxes on 1k acres for old people, cripples, and children.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:24 pm to nolaks
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curious, do ya'll fish in man made ponds?
I do. One of my favorite things to do in the spring is to hit my pond; catch a few fish; clean them; fry them; and have them in my belly about 30 minutes after they were swimming.
What I don't do is post pics of said fish on facebook trying to show how great fishermen I am.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:30 pm to Sao
My uncle used to have a 100 acre enclosure with red deer near Pineville. He said I could shoot some of his does, but I declined. It just didn't seem like real hunting when they will follow a 4 wheeler with a feed bucket in it.
ETA: Shed hunting was pretty cool. My son felt like a hero the day he found one of the sheds for my uncle.
ETA: Shed hunting was pretty cool. My son felt like a hero the day he found one of the sheds for my uncle.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:36 pm to Loup
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95% of the private land hunters are sitting in a box stand watching a corn pile
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Everybody draws the line where they see fit, and there is no right or wrong , or one size fits all. Some people want to pay a "guide" thousands of dollars to go spend a night at the lodge at perfectly managed high fence operation , wake up with breakfast in bed, ride to a mini condo and pick out a trophy when the feeder goes off...on the other end of the spectrum some people want to hunt public land with a bow they hand crafted with homemade stone arrow heads.....most of us are somewhere in between.....to thine own self be true and enjoy what you do
I get more enjoyment out of land management...planting and maintaining food plots, clearing out new areas, keeping roads and trails up, culverts, spraying, supplemental feeding, game cameras etc than i do out of hunting these days
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:40 pm to dat yat
I've hunted both and enjoyed both. The hardest thing about the high fence was trying to kill the numbers to keep your herd where you wanted. We had 6 members on 1400 acres and had to kill anywhere from 15-20 per member, per year. It was fricking miserable trying to kill that many deer, especially late in the season when they know better than to come to feeders. I only stayed on that one about 6 years and biggest I killed was a 181".
I still hunt low fence in the hill country and a buddy's place in Tensas. I'm at the age now where I'm not mad at them like I was when I was younger. Hadn't been in a tree in 15+ years and from my box blind sometimes I shoot and sometimes I just watch and appreciate.
I do however agree that a 181" high fence deer should not be appreciated like an old smart free range 181" buck.
I still hunt low fence in the hill country and a buddy's place in Tensas. I'm at the age now where I'm not mad at them like I was when I was younger. Hadn't been in a tree in 15+ years and from my box blind sometimes I shoot and sometimes I just watch and appreciate.
I do however agree that a 181" high fence deer should not be appreciated like an old smart free range 181" buck.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:13 pm to Loup
We have like 70 stands, about 90 rice bran piles, and I happily spend a chunk of my season playing rice bran sentinel
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:28 pm to Sao
I've been to two different ones and there was no comparison- one was a hunt won in a raffle in a whitetail-only place in the upper midwest that advertised itself as 2000 acres. The reality was it was a series of pens, with the largest being about 750 acres and every blind located on a feeder. After the "hunt", we toured the facilities where they bred the deer like cattle. No chance in hell I'd go pay to go to a place like that.
Contrast that with a Texas ranch that I've been to that is 4000 acres+, without a feeder on the property- all the hunting is done via stalking and glassing, and outside of the exotics, all genetics are native- no supplemental feeding at all. On this place, it truly is a hunt, and I'd argue more of a hunt than sitting in a stand over a corn pile/feeder.
Simply put, not all high fences are created equal, but to each there own, and if you are interested, do your homework.
Contrast that with a Texas ranch that I've been to that is 4000 acres+, without a feeder on the property- all the hunting is done via stalking and glassing, and outside of the exotics, all genetics are native- no supplemental feeding at all. On this place, it truly is a hunt, and I'd argue more of a hunt than sitting in a stand over a corn pile/feeder.
Simply put, not all high fences are created equal, but to each there own, and if you are interested, do your homework.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 2:29 pm to senor beavis
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4000 acres+, without a feeder on the property- all the hunting is done via stalking and glassing, and outside of the exotics, all genetics are native-
Id agree that that is a more of a hunt than guarding a corn pile. Many places east of the Mississippi are not anywhere near 4000 continous acres
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:08 pm to senor beavis
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Simply put, not all high fences are created equal, but to each there own, and if you are interested, do your homework.
This thread has been an interesting read. I like to deer hunt, but its been by invite only. I don't have any land and am not a part of any lease, so someone like me would have to pay for a hunt if I wanted to go more often.
I do think paying for a guided hunt with a higher chance of a kill is better for someone like me instead of spending money getting on a lease, camp, maintenance, etc....
Guess I would need to do more homework on it like you said.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:57 pm to TopWaterTiger
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I do think paying for a guided hunt with a higher chance of a kill is better for someone like me instead of spending money getting on a lease, camp, maintenance, etc....
Why is it better for you? Legitimately curious. Is it because you don’t think you would hunt enough to justify a lease? Or you feel like you are too “new” at hunting and think a guide would help your success more?
A good lease can be just as much as guided hunt. I could go to Texas once a year and kill a nice buck, but i choose a lease because it’s honestly more about going to the camp for me than killing. Also another aspect is , i like identifying my target. And spending the whole season trying to out smart him.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:54 pm to Yukon7
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Why is it better for you? Legitimately curious. Is it because you don’t think you would hunt enough to justify a lease? O
This. I just don’t have a whole lot of time to devote to it. And a good lease seems hard to come by.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 6:34 am to Sao
Never done high fence but have shot many deer guarding corn feeders. Also have done spot and stalk in Montana 4x on public land with no guide. This will be my first year guided. It’s a large low fence ranch and it’s more of a cull buck and doe meat haul than anything.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 4:13 pm to TopWaterTiger
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And a good lease seems hard to come by.
All good leases are taken and people have probably worked on them for years. Find a lease and make it a good lease.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:16 pm to TigerDeacon
IMO
I have hunted multiple high fence places. As many of you have stated, there are 2 totally different types of places. I’ve hunted places like the shiner in Texas that are multiple thousand acre ranches and no, their deer can’t leave, unless they try really hard, but it is not what you read about hunting in a pen and the deer are not tied to a tree. You can hunt for a whole week and never see a targeted deer. Those deer more than likely are never going to leave that acreage in their lifetime even if it’s low fence. Yes I get the genetics are not always natural but to bash them is sort of ridiculous. Honestly if you have a lease in Kansas how is it that much different ? You’ve got better deer than your average Louisiana deer hunter. Big deal. I love hunters from Louisiana who hunt the Midwest and bash Texas high fence hunters. If you want to have a fair contest, the 2 of you should go to some public land in la and see who comes out ahead.
On another note I was invited on a work trip to Pennsylvania to a high fence that was not a big Texas high fence. It in no way was real hunting and I totally accept that. However, none of you bashers would frown when you walked up on your 230+” deer.
I have hunted multiple high fence places. As many of you have stated, there are 2 totally different types of places. I’ve hunted places like the shiner in Texas that are multiple thousand acre ranches and no, their deer can’t leave, unless they try really hard, but it is not what you read about hunting in a pen and the deer are not tied to a tree. You can hunt for a whole week and never see a targeted deer. Those deer more than likely are never going to leave that acreage in their lifetime even if it’s low fence. Yes I get the genetics are not always natural but to bash them is sort of ridiculous. Honestly if you have a lease in Kansas how is it that much different ? You’ve got better deer than your average Louisiana deer hunter. Big deal. I love hunters from Louisiana who hunt the Midwest and bash Texas high fence hunters. If you want to have a fair contest, the 2 of you should go to some public land in la and see who comes out ahead.
On another note I was invited on a work trip to Pennsylvania to a high fence that was not a big Texas high fence. It in no way was real hunting and I totally accept that. However, none of you bashers would frown when you walked up on your 230+” deer.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 6:13 am to Sao
I’ll never hunt a high fence or go on a guided hunt mainly because I don’t want to pay the money. I don’t care how anyone hunts. Just don’t bang on my Southeast 8 point that I’m very proud of.
I quit showing people at work what I kill because most of the dudes there are surgeons and anesthesia personnel that never hunted till they had money. They always ask what’s it score. I don’t even know how to score a buck. I just feel like all that takes the fun out of it. I’ve been sweating my arse off the past month cutting trails and getting plots ready. They’ve paid someone to do it. I’m not hating, but I just feel it means more when you put the preseason work in.
My hunting rules on my property are simple: did you get excited when you saw the buck? Were you excited when you walked up to it? Then congrats on a great kill.
I quit showing people at work what I kill because most of the dudes there are surgeons and anesthesia personnel that never hunted till they had money. They always ask what’s it score. I don’t even know how to score a buck. I just feel like all that takes the fun out of it. I’ve been sweating my arse off the past month cutting trails and getting plots ready. They’ve paid someone to do it. I’m not hating, but I just feel it means more when you put the preseason work in.
My hunting rules on my property are simple: did you get excited when you saw the buck? Were you excited when you walked up to it? Then congrats on a great kill.
This post was edited on 9/16/21 at 6:15 am
Posted on 9/16/21 at 8:30 am to Eli Goldfinger
Way to be a dickhole Eli!
Posted on 9/16/21 at 8:35 am to Sao
I don't think any OT ballers are paying for it. Everyone I know does it under the company expense. No one will deny a free hunt/fake hunt
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