re: VIP Report: Sean Payton favors Taysom Hill over Jameis Winston as Saints' starter

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Guy on internet: quarterback with running ability limits playbook.

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Quarterback with passing limitations limits playbook

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Quarterback with passing limitations limits playbook

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Non-mobile quarterback prone to boneheaded decisions with the worst turnover count in the league since he came into it despite missing a full season limits a playbook much greater than someone with rushing upside and limited passing ability.

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You can add things that suit Taysom's abilities and expand a playbook.

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Have you been living under a rock? Payton did just this but it's idiots like yourself who are too dumb to understand this. The playbook expanded the minute Payton began to use Taysom in an expanded role.

The entire premise of using play action & rolling the pocket with Taysom in the passing game was to make use of Taysom's mobility while making his reads easier because of his lack of in game experience as a passer.

It's ironic that some of these same posters who keep wanting to talk about Taysom's running ability as a reason he should be the starter yet keep bringing up Winston's history of turnovers, tend to forget that Taysom has an issue with putting the ball on the ground himself.

There were two reasons Payton implemented more rollouts with Taysom under center into the game plan. One, rolling Taysom out when the play design called for deeper, longer routes helped buy time & prevented Taysom from having to deal with traffic in the pocket. Most running QBs will take their eyes from downfield when they feel pressure. They immediately want to run which can lead to ball security issues when attempting to navigate that pocket traffic. SOUND FAMILIAR???

Secondly, the rollouts cut the field in half in terms of Taysom's decision making when it came to his reads. Easier decision making made it where the chances were lower for Taysom to force a ball into traffic & possibly having it picked off. Nine times out ten, Payton drilled into Taysom that if his first option wasn't there on his rollout read, then use his legs to get a positive gain & move on to the next play.

To ForeverEllisHugh who doesn't understand what the concept of play action & why Payton decided to utilize this concept more with Taysom, the reason Payton did so is simple. First off, Payton knew that opposing teams would expect him to lean on the round game more with an inexperienced starting QB. Why not take advantage of that? Next, when a QB is able to perform a good/great play action fake, the end result is it sucks up the LBs & safeties taking them out of position to defend certain route concepts. The result is usually a much easier throwing lane for the QB & sometimes it leads to better separation for the intended receiver.

ForeverEllisHugh, you need to understand that if Taysom can't perform the basic footwork & timing involved when it comes to using play action (turning his back to the defense as you put it) in an NFL offense then he has no business being an NFL QB plain & simple.

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Yeah, that's what Sean Payton is known for letting valuable information leak to media

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This is the BEST & most accurate comment in this entire thread!!

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RightWingTiger

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Everyone already knows that CSP is a HUGE-MONGOUS RACIST & thats the ONLY reason Hill got the nod.

Anyone asking for proof that CSP is a Racist. I’ll give it to you now: Coach Payton is WHITE & therefore he is a RACIST! End of Debate, Case closed - CSP is MOS-DEF a Hate-mongering, Racist, Homophobic, Bigot & just like Global Warming, It’s not up for discussion so just accept it & politely move along!!

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Good lord man, you need to relax. Either way, checks out.

I was thinking the team goes more 22 personel and big sets with a heavy emphasis on the running game with taysom as the starter. You can give him easy reads and run alot of play action. Also spinkle in the read option and QB power. The philly game where he stunk it up. Was seeing alot of cover 2 and your right he wasnt trusting what he sees and was hesitant on making throws in cover 2 windows. 2nd half he let it rip and was making the right throws. Saying that shows a ability to learn and improve. Only 3 starts. His mechanics are night and day from when he first got here. I think he has a higher ceiling then Winston but lower floor. It all depends on if he can show he can process in his drop backs

Must be from Big Mamou

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The truth is, that no NFL QB can throw for 5K & 33 TDs in a season being a HORRENDOUS decision maker.

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The person who leads the NFL in turnovers since 2015 despite missing a season and a half altogether over that time period is a horrendous decision maker. It's not really arguable.