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re: Dr.Strange not in WandaVision b/c Feige didn't want "white guy" showing how "power worked"

Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:38 am to
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:38 am to
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Is he no longer the Sorcerer Supreme?


He won't even be the Sorcerer Supreme in his next movie.

Wanda will have a massive role in that film. Multiverse of Madness is also being used to introduce:




So I'm guessing at the end of the movie Strange will need to be saved by Wanda and America Chavez. Or at the very least, he'll need their help to overcome whatever conflict they are dealing with.

In case you're unfamiliar with Chavez, she's a young BiPoC girl with lesbian parents and the ability to fly at the speed of light and open interdimensional star portals.
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:39 am to
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You clearly don't understand the majority of people that are huge Marvel fans lean more left to begin with.


Got any proof of this one? Just because twitter leans left doesn't mean marvel fans as a whole lean left.
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:41 am to
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So I'm guessing at the end of the movie Strange will need to be saved by Wanda and America Chavez.


This next phase is going to be telling. A lot of people quit reading their comics over this stuff. We'll see if that trend continues in the movies and tv.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 11:44 am
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:30 pm to
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he's a young BiPoC girl with lesbian parents and the ability to fly at the speed of light and open interdimensional star portals.


Twitter tells me that any homosexual or individual suffering from gender dysphoria/dysmorphia can do that already.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:55 pm to
So let's recap.

White guy (Feige) doesn't incorporate Dr. Strange into Wandavision, as originally planned, because he "didn't want a white guy saying "let me show you how power works.""

The same white guy who is signaling all of these virtues, has just shifted the focus of Wandavision from Wanda and Elizabeth Olson to...himself, a white guy.

Leftist irony/hypocrisy is as regular as clockwork.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:59 pm to
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So I'm guessing at the end of the movie Strange will need to be saved by Wanda and America Chavez.


The senseless virtue signaling is pretty damned hilarious. My wife mentioned it when we were watching end game.

One of the last scenes, where all the women characters got together to try to prevent thanos from getting the gauntlet and beating thanos, but to ultimately fail and the man, IRONMAN, ended up defeating Thanos, was the equivalent of the woman failing at opening a jar of pickles. To only have the husband open them up right after and the woman saying, "Well i loosened the lid for you". Wokeness is cancer.
Posted by Woolfman_8
Old Metairie
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:01 pm to
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Why come out and say this? This is the problem with Hollywood, they have to SHOW they're Woke. Just don't have him in it and don't say anything about it. Nobody knew about this and no one cared. But you have to shout your woke BS from the roof top. Now you just look woke and stupid and make me fear for the future of Marvel projects!


Agreed. If you want to have female leads and minority leads, just do it. You don’t need to tell us why you are doing it.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79936 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:13 pm to
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One of the last scenes, where all the women characters got together to try to prevent thanos from getting the gauntlet and beating thanos, but to ultimately fail and the man, IRONMAN, ended up defeating Thanos, was the equivalent of the woman failing at opening a jar of pickles. To only have the husband open them up right after and the woman saying, "Well i loosened the lid for you". Wokeness is cancer.


The Boys did this much better in Season 2, in the scene where Stardust, Queen Maeve and The Female absolutely beat the shite out of Stormfront.
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:13 pm to
Remember when people on this board said this woke BS was a figment of our imagination and didn't change storylines?
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:25 pm to
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Marvel’s process is “a wonderful combination of very dedicated coordination, and chaos. Chaos magic.”


Chaos magic has been described as a union of traditional occult techniques and applied postmodernism[3] – particularly a postmodernist skepticism concerning the existence or knowability of objective truth.[4] Chaos magicians subsequently treat belief as a tool

LaVeyan Satanism involves the practice of magic, which encompasses two distinct forms; greater and lesser magic. Greater magic is a form of ritual practice and is meant as psychodramatic catharsis to focus one's emotional energy for a specific purpose. These rites are based on three major psycho-emotive themes: compassion (love), destruction (hate), and sex (lust). Lesser magic is the practice of manipulation by means of applied psychology and glamour (or "wile and guile") to bend an individual or situation to one's will.

Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49218 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:27 pm to
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We didn’t want the end of the show to be commoditized to go to the next movie — here’s the white guy, ‘Let me show you how power works.’”

Aside from the white guy comment I get what he's saying. It's pretty cliche to give someone struggling with their powers a teacher plus Strange being there would have mean he would just instant kill Agnes
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 8:50 pm to
Never miss an opportunity to be anti-white aka woke
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 1:51 am to
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You clearly don't understand the majority of people that are huge Marvel fans lean more left to begin with.


You clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about. Where did you get that made up fact from?

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I guarantee you that Marvel won't fail because a few republicans don't like their "Wokeness"


WTF are you talking about? I didn't bring politics into this. Plenty of properties have failed miserably because they went for Woke instead of a good story. Marvel has had plenty of Girl Power, Black Power etc crap in them, but the stories were solid and that wasn't the focus. When that becomes the focus, when WOKE is the story then it will turn people off. And Feige comment was a statement that they changed the direction of 2 properties just to make a woke statement. That is not a good sign of things to come.
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 1:55 am to
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It's pretty cliche to give someone struggling with their powers a teacher plus Strange being there would have mean he would just instant kill Agnes


There are plenty of reasons not to have Strange in the show. Including making sure the focus stayed on the "powerful woman". But there is NO reason to come out and explicitly say, can't have a white man mansplaining power to a woman. Say nothing and the powerful woman still stands as powerful without the white mans help. By saying it you are simply virtue signaling for Woke points.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 8:36 am to
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Bonkers119


You wear comic book T-shirts, don't you?
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 8:51 am to
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Got any proof of this one? Just because twitter leans left doesn't mean marvel fans as a whole lean left.

Hilarious when Marvel fans wrap themselves in the flag of liberalism... meanwhile, Ike Perlmutter was one of Trump's top contributors and was at the top of Trump's Veteran's Affairs team.

But then everyone who screams that they're pro-anything is usually, happily throwing their money to businesses in the opposition.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
4830 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:31 am to
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Feige comment was a statement that they changed the direction of 2 properties just to make a woke statement. That is not a good sign of things to come.


Eliminating a cameo at the writing stage does not change the direction. If your cameo does change the direction of something, your writing sucks.

Being annoyed at the statement is reasonable. Projecting into the future based on a cameo statement is not.
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