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The Making of Peg.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 5/1/21 at 8:21 pm
This is a fun historical piece with Donald, Walter, Rick Marotta, Chuck Rainey, Roger Nichols, Jay Graydon, Michael McDonald, etc.
LINK
LINK
This post was edited on 5/2/21 at 8:44 am
Posted on 5/2/21 at 3:53 pm to Bunk Moreland
I'm a sucker for these behind the music type docs; much respect for Rainey and Bernard Purdie.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 6:35 pm to Bunk Moreland
Walter and Donald were just basic English lit/music major nerds who by sheer fortune of time and place ended up together and doing what they were meant to do.
If Chevy Chase had been just a little better drummer...
Good times.
If Chevy Chase had been just a little better drummer...
Good times.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 6:39 pm to Ace Midnight
Ha. I was hammered last night when I made OP and originally had in there "AceMidnight, your thoughts?" Glad you delivered. I love the line from Marotta about how they played musical bands and rotated entirely different ones each day.
This post was edited on 5/2/21 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:10 pm to Bunk Moreland
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musical bands
Bob Seger did this to a degree during his peak era - he would swap out the SBB and the Swampers, depending on which band had the best vibe for the songs. Even on the first record with the Silver Bullet Band (Seven), he was plug and play with over a dozen other musicians. The next record, Beautiful loser, the SBB only played on his cover of Nutbush City Limits, with the Swampers playing on most of the rest of the record. For years after, it was about a 50/50 split on the studio albums all the way through Against the Wind.
(Folks only familiar with the songs and not the personnel would likely be surprised, for example, to learn that:
Katmandu
Mainstreet
Old Time Rock and Roll
We've Got Tonight
Fire Lake
...were all essentially Bob Seger and the Muscle Shoals Rhythm Section, and not Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band.)
Nobody rotated session players like Walter and Donald, though.
And the talent they pulled - take Pretzel Logic - all the drums were Jim Gordon except for 1 track Jeff Porcaro. The next album, Porcaro played all the drums except for 1 Hal Blaine. Perdie played drums for them at times. Steve Gadd and Rick Marotta - nobody would say no to them and they had no B-listers.
Dozens of musicians on every album. Many household names (or household names for music fans). Just the roster of guys they got to play guitar (and Walter was a great guitar player in his own right) - Carlton, Graydon, Baxter, Dias, Parks, Ritenour, Kahn, Bullock, even Rick Derringer and Mark Knopler.
Boggles the mind to this day.
This post was edited on 5/2/21 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:29 pm to Ace Midnight
I’m looking for a good bio on SD. Any recommendations? Behind the scenes stuff, making of albums, musician drama etc.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 6:48 am to JackSmith40000
sdarchive.com is a great resource, although they haven't updated it much since Walter died and never really changed from their "early internet" format.
Brian Sweet's bio is probably the best thing going on the print side, although I think it is paperback only right now - no audiobook or kindle (I don't think).
Fagen wrote a book before Walter died called "Eminent Hipsters" that I suppose Steely Dan fans need to read (although I haven't read it).
Brian Sweet's bio is probably the best thing going on the print side, although I think it is paperback only right now - no audiobook or kindle (I don't think).
Fagen wrote a book before Walter died called "Eminent Hipsters" that I suppose Steely Dan fans need to read (although I haven't read it).
Posted on 5/3/21 at 6:48 am to JackSmith40000
Double
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 6:48 am to JackSmith40000
Triple
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 6:49 am
Posted on 5/3/21 at 9:48 am to Bunk Moreland
Jay's solo
Man, I remember this tune on the radio, in heavy rotation with Rod Stewart, Jerry Rafferty...
This jazzy-assed solo is a stringophile's wet dream.
Man, I remember this tune on the radio, in heavy rotation with Rod Stewart, Jerry Rafferty...
This jazzy-assed solo is a stringophile's wet dream.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:27 am to 19
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Jay's solo
Jay such a Swiss Army knife, cowrote one of my very favorite songs - EWF's "After the Love Has Gone"
And this reminds me - Christopher Cross' debut album (the one that gets all the deserved praise) was almost a branch/sequel of the Steely Dan "mafia" - except for the solos Cross played himself, and the brilliant, often overlooked Eric Johnson solo on Minstrel Gigolo, Carlton and Graydon played the other solos on the record.
Of course, with Tommy Taylor on drums (well before his long association with EJ began), Cross himself and Eric Johnson, that was the Central Texas music scene flexing its muscle right there.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 8:04 pm to Ace Midnight
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ust the roster of guys they got to play guitar (and Walter was a great guitar player in his own right) - Carlton, Graydon, Baxter, Dias, Parks, Ritenour, Kahn, Bullock, even Rick Derringer and Mark Knopler.
Where’s Elliott Randall, created possibly one of the most recognizable guitar intro riffs of all time?
Posted on 5/4/21 at 6:03 am to EA6B
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Elliott Randall
I give Skunk too much credit for Randall's stuff
While we're at it, Hugh McCracken played with SD, too (the solo in Hey Nineteen and you 70s cats might remember a little song by Van Morrison called Brown Eyed Girl - McCracken was the main guitar player on that).
(ETA: These session guys made some decisions we might think strange in hindsight - Randall turned down Jeff Porcaro to be a founding member of Toto - McCracken did the same thing to Paul McCartney for Wings.)
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 6:05 am
Posted on 5/4/21 at 7:54 am to Ace Midnight
How Toto ended up flat broke is just so sad
Posted on 5/4/21 at 2:14 pm to Bunk Moreland
Loved it. Thanks for sharing that.
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