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re: Let’s talk about the electoral college

Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:27 pm to
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:27 pm to
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How? Someone who lives in a big city’s vote wouldn’t count more than someone who lived in the country.


It doesn’t now
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:28 pm to
They very well may keep the federal government in check, and we have seen that with covid, but who the president is affects everyone equally, and it’s a national election. Whoever more people want should be the president, just my opinion, y’all are way too hardcore, give politics a damn break, you literally have no control over anything one way or the other.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:30 pm to
Depending on what state you live in it absolutely matters more
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:31 pm to
Your reading comprehension is terrible, those were examples of countries that have an electoral college. You’re too stupid to argue with. Jesus Christ
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131033 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:31 pm to
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Someone who lives in a big city’s vote wouldn’t count more than someone who lived in the country.


oh yes it would. There are shite ton more of them than there are of you. they live on top of one another and vote in their self interests with little regard for what goes on in the rest of the country.

Los Angeles County has more people than the entire state of Louisiana.

Do you really want people in Los Angeles deciding Louisiana policy?
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
8452 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:32 pm to
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Bc it’s such a crazy and novel idea. Whoever gets the most votes wins..




You are so dense.

But ok, we will go with your premise but only after we break up in to 50 countries and each country uses their own popular vote to elect their own president. That's the only way I would go along with popular vote because I'll be damned if I let the people of California decide what's best for me in Louisiana. They have no idea and simply don't care what is best for my state.

Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:34 pm to
No and they wouldn’t, I didn’t say do away with the whole system of state’s rights, I think there should be more of that, but just the national election should be done by popular vote.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:40 pm to
Lol again, those are countries that have electoral colleges, you are a god damn idiot that can’t even read his own language, you seriously made your own point against yourself. It’s hilarious
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87331 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:44 pm to
Then NYC, LA, Houston, Chicago, Miami, and Atlanta would control the Executive branch.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4568 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:44 pm to
The presidency is not a populist position. It's an element of cooperation between states, not people. The states elect the president as voted on by the people of each state. Otherwise, a single city of likeminded, narrow interest would be able to nullify the vote of multiple whole states. A NYC metro voting bloc would have more votes than LA, AR, MS, and AL combined.

If you think it works for POTUS then why have Congress at all? Why not just have the populace vote for everything from constitutional amendments to SC appointments? If you can think of anything wrong with that, then the same philosophy applies to the office of Pressident.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:21 pm to
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if you live in California or Louisiana, it’s meaningless
Why? Do those EV not get counted?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29595 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:31 pm to
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Would it not be one person = one vote? If you live in Los Angeles or BME your vote would count as 1


Right and the 10MM people in LA cannot be counted on to look after the interests in lesser populations, Otherwise whats to stop the 10MM from sending all their trash to your back yard? Or their nuclear waste.

Not to be a dick but honestly the only people who disagree with the wisdom of the electoral college are people who don't understand it...or petty tyrants who believe in mob rule.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57017 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:34 pm to
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How do other countries that don’t have an electoral college get along?
Did you make it through kindergarten? You remember the question asked about if everyone jumped off a bridge would you do it too?

Pople that ask questions like this are painfully short-sighted. The US didn't become a superpower by being "like everybody else". No one successful does. Had Bill Gates been "like everybody else" he would have stayed in college and gone to work at IBM.

"everyone else is doing it" is NEVER an argument of merit. Something you appear to no have at all.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57017 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:37 pm to
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if you live in California or Louisiana, it’s meaningless
Yet here you are arguing LA's portion of the vote should be more meaningless...
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57017 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:38 pm to
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we have seen that with covid, but who the president is affects everyone equally,
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48285 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 6:46 am to
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Depending on what state you live in it absolutely matters more


That is patently false.

Just because a state breaks hard in one direction doesn’t mean the votes have less value. It was precisely the value of those votes that caused the state to break in that direction.

Your line of thinking on this is extremely simple.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 7:59 am to
More people live in rural areas than urban areas in the US. So please explain how a popular vote would disenfranchise people in rural areas. Outside of candidates not campaigning in those areas, which in 2020 with the internet, it doesn’t really matter where people campaign anyway, and as it stands they only campaign in a handful of states anyway.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 8:01 am to
Also people keep saying things like “do you want people in California to decide how much tax you pay” and my answer is no, I think there should be more power left up to the states overall, but a national presidential election should be by popular vote.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4568 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 9:19 am to
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More people live in rural areas than urban areas in the US.
Don't make stuff up to support your misguided ideals.

Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48285 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:36 pm to
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but a national presidential election should be by popular vote.


Why? We are a federalized republic not a unitary democracy. Our country was never structured to support a national referendum on our executive leader.

Simplistic thinking
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