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Painting Dry Wall

Posted on 10/16/20 at 12:52 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66324 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 12:52 pm
Just spend a weekend removing some really gross old wallpaper in a bathroom. Down to the drywall.

I read There are primers you can put down that essential seal the dry wall before the paint goes in. Alternatively you can just do a bunch of coats.

Anyone have experience on way or the other? It’s a small room so multiple coat probably isn’t too hard.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16273 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:01 pm to
I am sure by now there is one specifically for this purpose, saw they now have one to protect against mold/mildew. When we removed some wallpaper the contractor told us we needed to use an oil based primer, one coat. The thing we were told to watch for is if there is any additional peeling/bubbling when the primer is wet. Still only used 1 coat, but had to go over some sections a few times

If you don't normally wear gloves when you paint, I'd suggest you do for the primer in case there is some peeling/bubbling.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
6529 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:06 pm to
Use an oil based primer before painting. I've used regular old Kilz oil based primer in the past for walls that previously had wallpaper and years later there have been no issues.
This post was edited on 10/16/20 at 1:07 pm
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
14997 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

I've used regular old Kilz oil based primer



The stuff is a great primer but be sure to have the area well ventilated as it is pretty pungent and will get you lightheaded after a while. The oil base stuff that is.

The latex based Kilz is much easier to work with, breath without a lot of nasty fumes and cleans up with soap and water.

If you decide to use oil base Kilz, use a cheap brush and roller and just throw that shite away when done. The cost of mineral spirits to clean equipment from oil base paints is stupidly priced.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13286 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:37 pm to
Oil based Kilz is great stuff but it will knock you on your arse.

I suggest using that with the windows open, fans going, and an N95 mask on.

Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3535 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:58 pm to
Friend of mine did that recently and used this after removing wallpaper and prior to painting:

Zinsser 2301 Problem Surface Sealer
Posted by TheNolaClap
Jersey Shore (not fist pump)
Member since Jun 2012
1487 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 2:26 pm to
You might think you have it all, but likely some glue spots still on there. We just painted when we though we had it all and just wasn't smooth. Now I'm having to skim coat it and repaint.

And I second Kilz.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66324 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 3:02 pm to
And advice on how to avoid that issue?
Posted by TheNolaClap
Jersey Shore (not fist pump)
Member since Jun 2012
1487 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 3:07 pm to
Was my first time removing wall paper so maybe somebody else with more experience can comment whether I just suck at it or its an issue. I used the piranha paste remover and scraped everywhere. Looked clear but could see the uneven texture when painted.

Luckily this is only a half bath so skim coating the walls isnt a big deal.
This post was edited on 10/16/20 at 3:08 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66324 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 3:15 pm to
Similar situation but I used Hot water and a putty knife.

I’m thinking I just Maybe doing a really light sanding with one of those dustless sanders before I paint.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
14997 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

And advice on how to avoid that issue?


A lot of times the walls that get papered are not "sized" meaning primed with something prior to papering. If that is the case, removing wallpaper is often a real PITA as the wallpaper coming off will sometime remove the top paper layer of the dry wall.

It will come off easily and cleanly on taped seams where the sheetrock mud is, but it will often chew up the bare paper areas.

If you are a little suspect about the condition of the walls after removing the paper, you can either blow on, or roll on a bit of texture and that will hide some of the "sins" of small imperfections caused by removing the paper.
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3565 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 7:57 pm to
went through the same thing last year..... zinsser gardz is the answer
Posted by doublecutter
Hear & Their
Member since Oct 2003
6570 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 8:48 am to
quote:

went through the same thing last year..... zinsser gardz is the answer


This is the correct answer. Gardz is water based, no mess and smell like oil based. Be sure to apply enough that it soaks in to the wall and still leaves some on the surface. We did a hotel remodel where we removed old vinyl wallpaper that tore the top layer of drywall up. After removel, we coated the entire wall with Gardz, which locked down the torn drywall and prevented the torn drywall from bubbling up when the walls were skimmed. After the walls were skimmed, we coated the entire wall again with Gardz and then sprayed a light orange peel and painted. No problems. Gardz is very thin, so it goes a long ways. We used dozens and dozens of 5 gallon buckets of Gardz on that job.
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
13594 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 9:40 am to
I just did this in my pantry and I used Gardz on the recommendation of this board. It blocks any little pieces of drywall paper from bubbling up. It also creates a nice smooth, hard surface.

Helpful hint: It's SUPER thin so it does take some getting used to but a little goes a long way.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
34904 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 9:43 am to
I know I sound like an idiot but isn’t most paint on drywall?
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