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Recs: Learning a New Language (Spanish)

Posted on 3/23/20 at 4:17 pm
Posted by Fonzarelli
Dallas
Member since Jan 2015
3972 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 4:17 pm
I am going to post this on the OT as well, but figured I would probably have better chances here. Looking to pick up Spanish during quarantine. I do not expect to be fluent (i know real conversations are the only way to really pick up a language fully), but would like to hold my own.

I've been doing some googling on different apps, programs, etc. on learning Spanish, and each new article seems like an ad for their product (saying why all the others are bad and not as good). So I thought, who better to ask then the TD folks.

Any recommendations? If it helps, I took 3 years of Spanish in New Orleans high school (one decade ago), which I remember very very sparse amounts of. I also took 4 years of latin during that time, which helps with root words, but couldn't write or translate latin now for much if anything.

Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 4:48 pm to
Easy and free: the DuoLingo app. To me, DuoLingo is good for people who have done the basics in a language previously (like you). It’s very visual, reinforcing the written language in ways that old school audio only instruction missed.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35470 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 5:03 pm to
Duolingo is good. Rosetta Stone has a lifetime subscription now and you can learn more than one language. Once you start to get a little bit of an understanding watch childrens shows in Spanish. It helps a lot. Then you can progress into adult shows over time.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15672 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 5:14 pm to
I was told watching the news and commercials in a foreign language is good for reinforcing. I think the logic is they tend to use less slang
Posted by Fonzarelli
Dallas
Member since Jan 2015
3972 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 5:42 pm to
All good advice. Thanks everyone!
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
7438 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 5:54 am to
You better hope for a long quarantine. I've been working on this for 3 years now and I still have a long way to go. Start with Duolingo. It's free, you can take it with you anywhere, and it will be a good way to get started on vocab. I tried rosetta stone and didn't like it. It's over-priced and I didn't like the learning style of showing you pictures without using any English translations. It made it harder for me to figure out what it was trying to teach sometimes, and it never explains the reasoning behind grammar.

The absolute BEST thing I've done is listen to Language Transfer: Complete Spanish. You can find it for free on soundcloud. It's great if you spend a lot of time in your vehicle. I'll listen to two lessons on the way to work. When I get to work I listen to them again while writing down notes on everything I'm learning in a notepad. Then I repeat the same two on the way home. After about 10 lessons I'll listen to them all again once more. Every 3 or 4 weeks I'll go back and read through all my notes in my notepad. By then I usually have it down pretty well. The instructor is a linguist who teaches you by explaining the relationship between words in English/Spanish/Greek/Latin. I liked this because once you learn the relationships between translations you can start to guess how an English word will be translated into Spanish and you will often be right. Then start practicing and don't be scared to guess what a word in Spanish might be. Even if you are wrong you will often be close enough that the native speaker will know what you mean and correct you and that's how you continue to learn.

Also as others have mentioned, watch tv in Spanish. Use subtitles if you have to. Try reading short stories as well. There's plenty of Spanish learner books on Amazon that vary in difficulty.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38834 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:06 am to
Once you become comfortable enough with speaking, find a personal tutor on Italki. You can find people to give formal lessons OR just a native speaker to have conversations with.

I’ve been talking to a lady in France for over a year on Italki and it has worked wonders.
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
7151 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:53 am to
I had Spanish in high school and college. Grew up in Central Florida with some Cuban friends. Visited my daughter while she was working in Spain for two weeks.

My $.02:

There are SO many different Spanish dialects. What you might know for beer in Mexico (Una Cerveza) is not what you'd ask for in Spain (Una Cana - small beer). Not that they might not know what you're asking for, but that's not how they'd say it. And in Spain you have 17 autonomous communities. My daughter lived in Zargoza and could not really understand people from the South. And forget if you're going to the Basque region.

Point is "Spanish" is very regional with some similarities and some not so much. Will depend on where you're going.

I really enjoyed the YouTube Channel "With Rosa". You can learn a lot of conversational Spanish from these videos.

A good example.

When I am in a country, I use Evernote to document key words, phrases and idioms. Microsoft OneNote is what we use at work and is similar. Next time you're out, you'll remember how to ask that word or question. I also write it down phonetically so I remember how to say it correctly.

Good luck hombre!
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 9:58 am
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
7151 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:56 am to
quote:

I’ve been talking to a lady in France for over a year on Italki and it has worked wonders


Pics? (Sorry, it's an O-T thing).

Seriously, would like to learn more about it. How did you find the tutor? How much? How frequent do you converse?
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38834 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:28 am to
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Pics?


She's a grandma

quote:

Seriously, would like to learn more about it. How did you find the tutor? How much? How frequent do you converse?


When you sign up on the website you can tell them what kind of tutor that you want. The tutors set their own prices so the cost will depend. My French tutor is around 25/hour which is on the high end. When I was doing Spanish lessons, my tutor was 12/hour.

You can meet with them as frequently as you want, but I only meet with mine once every 2 weeks due to my family and work schedule. If you can spare the time, I recommend at least once a week.
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
7151 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:47 am to
quote:

She's a grandma


A GILF. Nice.

Thanks. That's a fascinating site. The hourly rates are amazing.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38834 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 8:12 pm to
Happy to help
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:29 am to
quote:

I was told watching the news and commercials in a foreign language is good for reinforcing. I think the logic is they tend to use less slang


I have a degree in Foreign Languages...originally Spanish speaker, then added French and German. F/G are now gone but the advise is solid....
BUT do not expect to learn a language watching the news 30 minutes and then doing the other 23.5 in English.


the News and the Weather are good sources, more so than today's commercials.... but be aware of the left lean on all Hispanic news stations.

OLD black and white movies are also good, but each country speaks a little differently. FYI
Try youtube for Documentarios o "peliculas clasicas en espanol" stay to old ones or black/white....better Spanish


NOTE: while the "names" foe specific things may change from one country to another, the Spanish does not...
the ONE FACTOR I HAVE NOTICED is education...the lower the educational level, the more bastardized the Spanish is...PROBABLY AS IN MOST COUNTRIES.

This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 5:11 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72439 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:33 am to
quote:

. I'm also trying to learn Italian.


i have italian friends in italy i speak with but here are two pieces of advice: for listening in your vehicle using time wisely use pimsleur approach. they have CD's and apps on iphone so you can listen while driving.

another good app on iphone is word dive.

use verbling if you want online tutors

good luck.
Posted by parrotdr
Cesspool of Rationalization
Member since Oct 2003
7506 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

f it helps, I took 3 years of Spanish in New Orleans high school (one decade ago),


I took three years of Spanish in High School, and 3 semesters in college. Duolingo has helped me tremendously a couple of decades later.

quote:

I also took 4 years of latin during that time,


Sorry you had to suffer through that Jesuit education...
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