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Professor Dershowitz take (tweets) on yesterday's impeachment (long)

Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:11 am
Posted by Contra
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:11 am
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Alan Dershowitz
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My friend an colleague omitted from his rendition of the history of impeachment the explicit rejection by the framers of “maladministration “ and other open ended criteria of impeachment. (1 of 2)


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Alan Dershowitz
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(2 of 2) James Madison worried that such vague criteria would have the president serve at the will of congress. So they insisted on specific criminal-type criteria as a necessary but not sufficient condition for impeachment.


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Alan Dershowitz
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Professor Carlin’s partisanship was evident in her testimony. Would she have made the arguments she made if Hillary Clinton had been elected and were being impeached on similar grounds ? Does she pass the “shoe on the other foot” test? (1 of 2)


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Alan Dershowitz
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(2 of 2)
Hamilton said the greatest danger is that impeachment would be used in a partisan manner. This is the first time in our history that impeachment may be voted along partisan lines.


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Alan Dershowitz
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Professor Gerhardt is wrong in arguing that a president can be impeached for insisting that the courts resolve conflicts between the legislative and executive branched. (1 of 2)


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Alan Dershowitz
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(2 of 2) Our system of checks and balances permits a president to resist congressional subpoenas if he believes that the information sought is privileged. It is the function of the judicial branch to resolve such disputes.


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Alan Dershowitz
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Professor Gerhardt says that we teach our law students always to comply with congressional subpoenas. No. We teach our students that we have an adversary system which permits the executive to challenge legislative actions.


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Alan Dershowitz
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The Democratic experts are seeking to “amend” the impeachment provisions of the constitution by adding criteria that were expressly rejected by the framers.



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Alan Dershowitz
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If every president who put their own partisan or electoral interests over the national interest were to be impeached, there would be no end of impeachments. It would be interesting for presidential historians to document every instance of a president who did this.


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Alan Dershowitz
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Professor Gerhardt says that if President Trump’s actions are not impeachable, then nothing is impeachable. Wrong. What Nixon was accused of were real high crimes.


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Alan Dershowitz
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The Democratic experts are selectively quoting the history of the impeachment provisions of the Constitution. A full rendition of the history would not justify their conclusions.



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Alan Dershowitz
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Why didn’t the my friend and former student Norm Eisen cross examine Turley instead of throwing softballs at the Democratic witnesses?



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Alan Dershowitz
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Feldman mistakenly says the Constitution defines bribery. Where? It defines treason, but not bribery


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Alan Dershowitz
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I wish the Republican counsel would cross examine the Democratic witnesses and vice versa.



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Alan Dershowitz
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Professor Turley is correct that impeaching a president for demanding judicial review of Congressional subpoenas would undercut our system of checks and balances.


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Alan Dershowitz
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Prof Feldman is wrong in suggesting that the courts have no role to play in deciding whether Congressional subpoenas are subject to claims of executive privilege in the context of impeachment.


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Alan Dershowitz
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Prof. Carlin defines bribery to include “ bad practices.” That would be unconstitutionally vague and dangerous.


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Alan Dershowitz
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The only non partisan expert witness has been Professor Turley. It’s been 3 against 1, but thus far the 1 has been more objective and persuasive than the 3.


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Alan Dershowitz
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The Democratic witness should be pressed to explain how they can advocate criteria for impeachment that were rejected by the framers. (1 of 2)


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Alan Dershowitz
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(2 of 2) How can “high crimes and misdemeanors“ be interpreted to mean precisely what the framers rejected: “maladministration” and other open ended criteria. If they want to reverse what the Framers accepted, they have to amend the Constitution, as they did with the 25 amendment


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Alan Dershowitz
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The expert witnesses should be cross examined by opposing counsel instead of just being thrown softballs by counsel on their side. Cross examination is essential to test witnesses. Otherwise the witnesses are just lecturing about their preexisting views.


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Alan Dershowitz
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What a waste of time and resources to have no cross examination of hostile expert witnesses. What a missed opportunity to press witnesses instead of throwing them softballs. Why no cross examination?



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Alan Dershowitz
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The open ended criteria for impeachment proposed by the Democratic experts are dangerous and place Congress above the law. That’s why the Framers demanded specific criteria that sound of crime, rather than “abuse of office.”



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Alan Dershowitz
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Finally Congressman Gaetz cross examined Democratic witnesses. We need more.


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Alan Dershowitz
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I respectfully disagree with Professor Turley that “abuse” of office or power can by itself be the basis for impeachment, unless there is also a designated criminal act (treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors). (1 of 2)


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Alan Dershowitz
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(2 of 2) The Constitution would have to be amended to substitute “abuse” for the current criteria.



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Alan Dershowitz
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I respectfully disagree with professor Turley that “abuse” of office or power can by itself be the basis for impeachment.


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Alan Dershowitz
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The Democratic witnesses have said that unless President Trump is impeached, future presidents will seek help from foreign governments to get re-elected. (1 of 2)


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Alan Dershowitz
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(2 of 2) There is another alternative: Congress can pass a statute making it a crime to do that. But there is no such criminal statute on the books.


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Alan Dershowitz
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The Republicans should have challenged Professor Feldman’s assertion that “abuse of office" is a constitutional basis for impeachment. These words do not appear in the Constitution and such vague criteria were rejected by the Framers.


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Alan Dershowitz
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The Democratic witnesses have wrongly said that Congress cannot move forward because President Trump has resisted Congressional subpoenas. Of course they can. Simply go to court and get a judicial order.That is the proper course, not impeachment for invoking separation of powers


Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:13 am to
Sounds like Derschowitz is thinking he can worm his way out of his own troubles by going to bat for Prez.
Posted by KCT
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:17 am to
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Sounds like Derschowitz is thinking he can worm his way out of his own troubles by going to bat for Prez.


To be fair to Derschowitz, he basically sided with the Trump camp regarding the 2 year-long Trump/Russia witch-hunt, too.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12037 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:22 am to
OOOOR.... he is right.


Please point out which of his statements were wrong, and why. I would like to understand better.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118550 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:22 am to
The point of yesterday's exercise was not to be legally and historically correct. That was completely evident by people watching and have cursory knowledge of U.S. constitutional history. The point was to deliver a pre-scripted narrative to feed the media to get more people convinced to support impeachment.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67478 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:30 am to
HO
LEE
shite

Has Dershowitz tweeted that much in the past 5 yrs? He was bringing some serious GFY heat
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:32 am to
I didn't say he was wrong. What I was saying is frick Alan Derschowitz. He's a PoS pedophile.

I'll give him credit for being on the right side of this.
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3180 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:32 am to
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BoarEd


Is he wrong?
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12037 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:53 am to
Fair.

I dislike him for same reason.
But I always found him to be extremely fair and unbiased when discussing legal matters as an observer.
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