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re: If LSU wins it all this year, where does O rank in your favorite LSU coaches list?
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:26 am to LCTFAN
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:26 am to LCTFAN
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He wants so bad to say "but remember OLE MISS"
I can't tell you how many arguments I had to have with those people. Full disclosure, I was adamant at the time that - while I thought it was time for Les to go - it was insane to fire Les to hire O. Of course, that's not what Alleva intended - he fired Les to hire Herman or Jimbo and got stuck in 2 bidding wars. Just as Joe Dean did a generation before with Dinardo (another head coaching search that was embarrassing and painful for LSU), Alleva kind of stuck in his thumb and pulled out a plumb with O.
Now, once hired, a lot of these "fans" couldn't let things go. After O had his early troubles they would say, "But, but, but - OLE MISS!" - I had to remind them, "That's got nothing to do with his performance at LSU. It's irrelevant. That may have been relevant in considering whether or not to hire him, but we're past that now. Please stop talking about it in relation to what he is doing or not doing at LSU. It is, again, completely irrelevant."
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:30 am to Lestat de Lioncourt
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Miles barely got that natty with 2 losses in 07
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despite 20 or his 22 starters being top notch Saban recruits.
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This is actually O’s team and he didn’t have to ride the previous coaches recruiting coattails to do it either.
Les hired O, Ensminger AND Aranda. I do agree the current team is mostly O's now and he deserves most, if not all of the credit, for assembling the team we've seen out there in 2019.
But you cats' hatred for Miles is misplaced and, frankly, unexplainable. The 2011 team went undefeated through the SEC-CG with JefferLee as QB. :letthatsinkin: Was that team using "Saban's" recruits, too?
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:36 am to Ace Midnight
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The 2011 team went undefeated through the SEC-CG with JefferLee as QB.
I am at a total loss in explaining the complete disaster of that NC playoff game.
Under no circumstance can it be explained - I got nothing = most complete mystery in sports history as far as I am concerned.
Still seems like a bad dream, nightmare to me.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:46 am to Ace Midnight
Nah the non football ignorant saw what was coming. I stated it for years. Miles ignored performance. Signs were there in the seccg. 7 straight 3 and outs. He expected to beat SABAN with the same garbage gameplan. Then he quit. He refused to play lee. He refused to go HUNH. he handed off and punted. He wuit against Bama. That’s unacceptable and unforgivable. That man wasted loads of national title talent. None of the above can you deny.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:48 am to Soup Sammich
Top 3 ! 
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:27 am to Lestat de Lioncourt
O is #1. This story keeps getting better. I doubted the man, but he has become something special.
Saban restored LSU to national prominence, but he was always going to leave for the NFL. I wish he would have realized he was a college coach before meeting Wayne Huizenga. He's #3 on my list.
Miles did a heckuva job maintaining LSU at a high level for several years. He loved LSU, but the frustration factor and Orgeron's rise puts him 2nd.
I started following LSU when Cholly Mac was at his peak(1969). I recognize his greatness, but didn't get to experience much of it. 4th.
Bill Arnsparger gets 5th because of his immense success. Too bad he only stuck around for 3 years.
Saban restored LSU to national prominence, but he was always going to leave for the NFL. I wish he would have realized he was a college coach before meeting Wayne Huizenga. He's #3 on my list.
Miles did a heckuva job maintaining LSU at a high level for several years. He loved LSU, but the frustration factor and Orgeron's rise puts him 2nd.
I started following LSU when Cholly Mac was at his peak(1969). I recognize his greatness, but didn't get to experience much of it. 4th.
Bill Arnsparger gets 5th because of his immense success. Too bad he only stuck around for 3 years.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:45 am to FightingTigers138
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If (??) LSU wins it all this year, where does O rank in your favorite LSU coaches list?
If (??)
Hell - O is already my favorite COACH of all time - nobody that I have seen comes close = been watching LSU football since Gus
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:49 am to Lestat de Lioncourt
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Miles barely got that natty with 2 losses in 07, despite 20 or his 22 starters being top notch Saban recruits. This is actually O’s team
Gonna need you to show your math. Miles won it all in year 3 and you say it wasn't his team. O would be winning in year 3 but it's all O's team?
To answer OP, this is tough. I was a student starting in 2003, so my LSU years were the golden era. I have such fond memories from 2003 and 2007 that it's hard have O surpass them. But this year has been an absolute joy.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:53 am to Fat Bastard
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That’s unacceptable and unforgivable.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:54 am to FightingTigers138
He'd move past Saban to numero uno
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:04 am to FightingTigers138
Lets get real here - the difference this season is Brady, period. Before Brady, O had the program going backwards, losing to teams like Troy and getting shut out by Bama. He backstabbed his way into the HC position and was on the hot seat despite a 10-3 season.
Enter Joe Brady.
Now LSU has a damn good offensive guy to go along with our defensive guy. All Ed has to do is stay out of the way. Credit for the hire, sure, but some of you saying favorite? You're drunk.
Enter Joe Brady.
Now LSU has a damn good offensive guy to go along with our defensive guy. All Ed has to do is stay out of the way. Credit for the hire, sure, but some of you saying favorite? You're drunk.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:10 am to Soup Sammich
quote:Though not a local I believe Les had just as much.
will be number 1 for what he overcame and because of his absolute pure love for LSU
Posted on 12/3/19 at 4:41 pm to FightingTigers138
Numbah ONE! He's living the dream and representing LSU and the state of Louisiana extremely well. There are two movies to be made about this season.
One will focus on Joe Burrow and the other will focus on Coach Orgeron. Opponents' dreams come to die in Death Valley, but for the righteous and the faithful it is truly heaven.
One will focus on Joe Burrow and the other will focus on Coach Orgeron. Opponents' dreams come to die in Death Valley, but for the righteous and the faithful it is truly heaven.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 4:45 pm to FightingTigers138
He was smart enough to hire someone like joe Brady. No joe, we done for.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:36 pm to FightingTigers138
1. Orgeron
2. Saban
3. Arnsparger
4. Stovall
5. Miles
2. Saban
3. Arnsparger
4. Stovall
5. Miles
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:37 pm to FightingTigers138
If he wins an undefeated NC, he will rank number one, obviously. But we haven't achieved that yet.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:40 pm to DmitriKaramazov
If he wins the next three games and keeps going like he is, there will be a statue of him outside Tiger Stadium in the not too distant future.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:41 pm to FightingTigers138
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:45 pm to Jabontik
Gotta give Saban credit. It was his recruiting and vision which turned LSU from mid level SEC to the top.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:07 am to LSU Jax
Damone is an incredible douche. He should listen to what the Burrows think of O. He should listen to what Lawrence said about the change in the program since O took over.
Maybe that would should shut him and a few others up.
Maybe that would should shut him and a few others up.
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