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LSU FPI Ranking

Posted on 11/19/19 at 5:06 pm
Posted by SoCalTigah
Orange County
Member since Nov 2019
132 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 5:06 pm
Comical

#3

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66342 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 5:06 pm to
The FPI has Bama as #1 after we beat them.

It’s a severely flawed system
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53714 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 5:08 pm to
fricked up
Power
Index
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34839 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 5:08 pm to
Obviously the main criteria is recruiting rankings
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71483 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 5:09 pm to
LSU was 4 on Sunday and Bama was 3. Their formula is bad.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

The FPI has Bama as #1 after we beat them.

It’s a severely flawed system


No they didn't. Ohio St has been sitting at 1. Bama was at 3, and LSU 4, after we beat them though.
Posted by SoCalTigah
Orange County
Member since Nov 2019
132 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 6:28 pm to
It’s so bad it’s funny.

Just like any value for CFB Rankings...just a way to profit on the subjectivity in College Football. Makes for good water cooler talk and social media banter. Cha Ching.

Just hope in the end we win out and are not at the mercy of the committee. Would hate to be a PAC12 team right now. Misery.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 10:46 pm to
i have been saying for years i can't for the life of me understand the fpi.

lsu is currently #4 with clearly the best resume in cfb. fine, fpi is a predictive measure according to espn. iow, where the teams will end up. again, this makes no sense according to fpi's own data.

espn has the proj w/l at 12.4-0.6. so are they including the seccg? if so, that means lsu is predicted to lose a game because the win out % is only 44.8%. fpi has lsu beating ark and aggie which means fpi has lsu losing to uga. but that makes no sense because uga's predicted finish is 11.3-1.7 with predicted wins over aggie and ga tech. so it has both lsu and uga losing the seccg.

and how in tarnation is bama ahead of lsu?!? the predicted finish is 10.7-1.3 which is worse than lsu's. so if it is a predictive measure, then lsu should be ahead of bama. and how is bama's win out % higher than lsu's when bama has auburn left which fpi only gives bama a 68% chance to win.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82010 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

espn has the proj w/l at 12.4-0.6. so are they including the seccg? if so, that means lsu is predicted to lose a game because the win out % is only 44.8%. fpi has lsu beating ark and aggie which means fpi has lsu losing to uga. but that makes no sense because uga's predicted finish is 11.3-1.7 with predicted wins over aggie and ga tech. so it has both lsu and uga losing the seccg.
uhhh...Yeah, this isn't your thing
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98126 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 10:50 pm to
Verne designed the algorithm.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 8:42 am to
Then let's see your explanation genius. Multiple people are noticing that it doesn't make sense
Posted by EasterEgg
New Orleans Metro
Member since Sep 2018
4810 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:10 am to
I thought it was pretty decent back when it first came out around 2013 or 2014. I used it in winning efforts in various fantasy games. Then it became increasingly biased toward a certain team around the same time that team also started getting multiple ESPN specials. I haven't paid much attention to it since.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82010 posts
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:40 am to
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Then let's see your explanation genius. Multiple people are noticing that it doesn't make sense
what multiple people? What doesn't make sense is why LSU is ranked so low. The numbers you are questioning, however, make perfect sense. They give LSU a 0.987 odds against Arkansas, 0.848 odds against A&M and if LSU beats either team OR Bama loses to Auburn, it gives lsu a 0.54 chance of beating Georgia. If you add those all up, you get 2.4 wins. Thus the 12.4-0.6 record projection.

You can do the same math with Georgia and come up with the 11.3-1.7 projected record. So this conclusion of yours is false. The numbers add up.
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so it has both lsu and uga losing the seccg.
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 11:46 am
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 4:42 pm to
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what multiple people?
you mean other than the op and all the people who responded to it in this thread and every other thread every time this is brought up?

quote:

The numbers you are questioning, however, make perfect sense. They give LSU a 0.987 odds against Arkansas, 0.848 odds against A&M and if LSU beats either team OR Bama loses to Auburn, it gives lsu a 0.54 chance of beating Georgia. If you add those all up, you get 2.4 wins. Thus the 12.4-0.6 record projection.

You can do the same math with Georgia and come up with the 11.3-1.7 projected record. So this conclusion of yours is false. The numbers add up.
so you typed all that and didn't answer the questions i raised. good job

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What doesn't make sense is why LSU is ranked so low
precisely. that's what everyone has been asking about the fpi and sagarin
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
17396 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 4:49 pm to
I don’t know... makes sense to me. As mentioned the rankings are predictive. What they’re getting at is that if on a neutral field Clemson and Ohio State would be favored against us. Vegas says the same.

Not saying they’re right. I’ve seen enough to know my money would be on LSU and would get great odds on the game, but that’s what Vegas and these metrics predict. Fellow degenerates should be celebrating we’re underdogs in these potential matchups, give our tigers a chip on their shoulder to boot!
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