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How are closed primaries considered constitutional?

Posted on 8/13/19 at 10:47 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 10:47 pm
The text of the 24th amendment would seem pretty clear that they're not

What am I missing here?

quote:

The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.


Or are they referring to something else when they refer to primary here?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131226 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 10:51 pm to
You can vote in the “primary” election. You just have to choose one party.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13061 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 10:51 pm to
That means you cannot be forbidden to vote because you did not pay a tax to vote. Poll taxes were used in the South to limit blacks and poor whites from voting.

Political parties control Presidential primaries and can determine who is one the ballot and who is eligible to vote. Those are determined by states.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41157 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131226 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 10:54 pm to
I guess that’s what some people say when they are “registered Republican”

I’m my State you can’t register to a party.

You just choose an R or D when it’s a primary and the appropriate candidates come on the screen.
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7952 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 10:54 pm to
That’s was a Democrat thing that’s ashes in the wind
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12078 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax

I think this is the important part.
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
4828 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 10:56 pm to
Finish reading the amendment. It's right there in your sentence.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 10:57 pm to
quote:

You can vote in the “primary” election. You just have to choose one party.
It says "any" primary election

Doesn't say you have to choose
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13313 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 11:27 pm to
quote:

shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.


You’re emphasis is on the wrong part. None of that means democrats can choose the republican candidate, or vice versa. All primaries should be closed. Hell, republicans allow important, early primaries to be in states that are generationally democrat, with open primaries. That’s how you get Romney and McCain for candidates.

Republicans should schedule primaries by the percentage of the state that voted republican in the last presidential election. Iowa and New Hampshire can suck it.
Posted by maizegoblue
Florida
Member since Jan 2011
1800 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:36 am to
quote:

I guess that’s what some people say when they are “registered Republican” I’m my State you can’t register to a party. You just choose an R or D when it’s a primary and the appropriate candidates come on the screen.


That's how it was in Michigan. In Florida I had to register as a Republican to vote in the primary. It differs by state. I don't mind the idea of registering for a party to vote in the primary, but I don't think that should or needs to be public information if you google my name, that is BS.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66342 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:41 am to
Did you finish the sentence?
Posted by TaTa Toothy
Everything in its right place
Member since Sep 2017
944 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:40 am to
Did you read it as "How are closed primates considered constitutional?"
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5701 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 6:03 am to
It means that the political parties cannot tax you to vote in their primaries, not that you have a right to vote in any primary. Read the whole sentence.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42508 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 6:20 am to
Seems to be restricted to 'poll tax' for the reason for not allowed to vote.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42508 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 6:22 am to
quote:

All primaries should be closed.


Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37423 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 7:01 am to
Last I checked there is no fee to join a party
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 7:29 am to
A political party is a private entity. You have no right to vote in their primary.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 7:37 am to
quote:

Poll taxes were used in the South to limit blacks and poor whites from voting.


What were they used for outside of the South?

What were property requirements to vote used for?
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