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re: Eyes Wide Shut: Masterpiece; flawed, but intriguing; or overrated shite
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:53 pm to Jack Ruby
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:53 pm to Jack Ruby
I love it and I love Cruise's performance, it was Kidman's that I didn't like. Seemed like she was just going through the motions of the affected unhappy spoiled wife
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:23 pm to Jack Ruby
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You can convince yourself that nearly every single line of dialogue means something else.
This applies to most of Kubrick's movies.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:13 am to Jack Ruby
Kubrick exposed the Illuminati rituals and got kilt for it. So it's an important film
Posted on 5/16/19 at 8:32 am to Jack Ruby
Love it. One of the best theater experiences we've ever had.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:23 am to Jack Ruby
I want a whole movie about Milich, and his daughter!
" If the good doctor himself should ever want anything again... anything at all... it needn't be a costume."
" If the good doctor himself should ever want anything again... anything at all... it needn't be a costume."
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:27 pm to Brosef Stalin
I used to be a huge fan of Kubrick, but as I got older, I sort of fell out of love wit his movies, mainly due to my own point of view and personal aesthetic evolving into something completely different. I will say EYES WIDE SHUT is maybe the most Kubrickian film, and I get why people love it.
It is beautifully shot and it is a movie in which everything fits together like a puzzle, with every shot, every line of dialogue, hell, every stitch of clothing all adds up to a greater whole. He is a master craftsman and one one of the great formalist directors of... well, ever. The problem for me is, to borrow a phrase from another of his films, it is all a Clockwork Orange.
Everything fits together perfectly, and he is a master craftsman and technician to fit it all together, but what he created in no one resembles any reality we inhabit nor do the character resemble actual living human beings. Everything is just slightly false. His movies feel like diving headlong into the Uncanny Valley. And I get that he's not going for realism, and that people don't much interest him, but... they interest me. And what I love most are those tangents of human thought that DON'T fit the puzzle. I love the flaws in the pearls, and he has sanded them all away.
He was a genius and this could be his masterpiece. But it doesn't speak to me anymore. He didn't change, I did. And I don't want his world in a bottle.
It is beautifully shot and it is a movie in which everything fits together like a puzzle, with every shot, every line of dialogue, hell, every stitch of clothing all adds up to a greater whole. He is a master craftsman and one one of the great formalist directors of... well, ever. The problem for me is, to borrow a phrase from another of his films, it is all a Clockwork Orange.
Everything fits together perfectly, and he is a master craftsman and technician to fit it all together, but what he created in no one resembles any reality we inhabit nor do the character resemble actual living human beings. Everything is just slightly false. His movies feel like diving headlong into the Uncanny Valley. And I get that he's not going for realism, and that people don't much interest him, but... they interest me. And what I love most are those tangents of human thought that DON'T fit the puzzle. I love the flaws in the pearls, and he has sanded them all away.
He was a genius and this could be his masterpiece. But it doesn't speak to me anymore. He didn't change, I did. And I don't want his world in a bottle.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 5:39 pm to Baloo
I liked it a lot when I saw it in the theaters 20 years ago. But I was watching it on HBO a few years back and it's one of those movies where you realize it really hurt Kubrick that he was a hermit for 40+ years. The characters and performances just kind of seem off. Heck, New York seems off. You wonder what Martin Scorsese or Spike Lee would have done with it. They would have at least shot it in the city and not recreated it in a London studio.
I read somewhere that Kubrick had wanted to make the movie since the late 1960s-early 1970s and it was his take on how he was missing out on the sexual revolution because he was married.
I read somewhere that Kubrick had wanted to make the movie since the late 1960s-early 1970s and it was his take on how he was missing out on the sexual revolution because he was married.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:52 pm to Jack Ruby
I really like it but I saw that bedroom scene the other night and man it was painful. I forgot how bad.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 8:18 pm to Jack Ruby
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Masterpiece; flawed, but intriguing; or overrated shite
Overrated shite show. But intriguing at the same time.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:27 pm to Navytiger74
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I watched in on the sly because I was a pent up Christian kid like 18 years ago and my church friends and family were telling me it was the devil.
You are a weird fricker
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:31 pm to Baloo
I sort of agree I’ve honestly could never stand Kubrick full metal jacket and this are his only films I can stand more than once. I feel like clockwork and shining are only held to the standard they are because of the name behind them. Visually this guy could trap you in and entertain you but outside of that can’t carry a movie worth shite
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:19 am to kale
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I’ve honestly could never stand Kubrick full metal jacket and this are his only films I can stand more than once.
but only the first half, right?
Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:43 am to AUbused
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really like it but I saw that bedroom scene the other night and man it was painful. I forgot how bad.
It's one of the strangest, most unconfrotably bad scenes I've vee seen.
Kidman and Cruise both act like they're high school theater actors who have never smoked weed before and think it has the sme effect as drinking 4 bottles of nyquil...
Her acting may even be worse than his, and that's saying something. I guess they're supposed to be "not awake" at that point, but, damn, the MK Ultra brainwashing theories have merit with that scene.
Combine the acting with the terrible, long-winded dialogue and it makes you want to turn the movie off there.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:36 pm to Jack Ruby
Great movie. Not his best, but still holds up on repeat viewings. I think that scene is supposed to be awkward. In the movie they had drifted completely apart.
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