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re: Thoughts on the Players becoming a Major Championship?

Posted on 3/13/19 at 8:56 am to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 8:56 am to
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Right and most of those are not playing on courses.
The very next paragraph, dumbass:

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The number of people who played on a golf course for the first time in 2017 increased for the fourth straight year
Posted by Rusty Scroggins
Member since Feb 2019
197 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 8:57 am to
Which is why I said most of the growth was not on course because, you know, they weren't.

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 8:59 am to
Rusty: Bad players don't want to play golf anymore

Truth: Bad players playing golf on a course have increased over the last 4 years

Rusty: Yeah well, there's an even bigger increase off the course.


This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 9:00 am
Posted by Rusty Scroggins
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:01 am to
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Rusty: Bad players don't want to play golf anymore

Truth: Bad players playing golf have increased over the last 4 years

Rusty: Yeah well, there's an even bigger increase off the course.


GE's revenue also increased last year and they may declare bankruptcy this year. Are you able to comprehend complex concepts or is combining multiple sources of information to hard for you?
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 9:06 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:04 am to
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He's revenue also increased last year and they may declare bankruptcy this year.
What?
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Are you able to comprehend complex concepts or is combining multiple sources of information to hard for you?
The truth is that new golfers are increasing on courses and at top golf, but more so at top golf. Any decrease in overall play can be attributed to the weather, not difficult courses. Those are facts. You have yet to provide any backup evidence that bad golfers are leaving the sport, much less for the reason this fake news is attributed to: penalty areas.

Take the L, Rusty.
Posted by Rusty Scroggins
Member since Feb 2019
197 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:06 am to
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Take the L, Rusty.


The L is having most golfers like you thinking what the PGA Tour plays on is good golf
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:08 am to
Deflect away, Rusty.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 11:40 am to
I agree with a lot of what you’re saying. I just think there is a little bit of a better way to get that across.

A large problem IMO is that the average person looks at what players want or like and think that means they should feel the same. A good example is when they put that center line bunker at the 12th at TPC Boston, but it made the players uncomfortable because they had to think about their tee shot and what they wanted to do.

The players complained and got the bunker removed. If that same style bunker was in Europe they’d be fine with it.
Posted by Rusty Scroggins
Member since Feb 2019
197 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 11:44 am to
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A large problem IMO is that the average person looks at what players want or like and think that means they should feel the same. A good example is when they put that center line bunker at the 12th at TPC Boston, but it made the players uncomfortable because they had to think about their tee shot and what they wanted to do


Same with Trinity Forrest last year. The Tour is so spineless its sad
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 11:50 am to
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Same with Trinity Forrest last year. The Tour is so spineless its sad


They even slowed it down too. Kuchar was complaining on one of the par 3 tee shots that he couldn’t basically land it right at the hole and would have had to think strategically about where to play his shot.

Royal Melbourne could be the same way, but it’s expected going in. The PGA tour has so many soft courses that a lot of the guys don’t enjoy when it changes and I think that’s an issue.
Posted by Rusty Scroggins
Member since Feb 2019
197 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 11:54 am to
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The PGA tour has so many soft courses that a lot of the guys don’t enjoy when it changes and I think that’s an issue.


They don't enjoy it because it's harder and makes you think more. I get it from their perspective, they want to be able to fire right at pins and play as "thoutless" as possible because of the money involved, but the job of the Tour should be to create the best product and not bend over backwards to the players.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6209 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 6:18 pm to
No, it should not be a major.

The field is there because of the purse but the better players hate the course. It is manufactured and not worthy.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 8:41 am to
I think it was trending in that direction. If not a major, it is definitely a level above every other tour spot.

But with the move to March, it is going to lose a lot of steam and fall back to the pack. It’s a secondary story at best this weekend and will be overshadowed by all of the conference tournaments.

I hate this move. The Players is one of my favorite tournaments and really thought it was in an ideal spot in May.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 8:43 am
Posted by Rusty Scroggins
Member since Feb 2019
197 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 8:43 am to
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The field is there because of the purse but the better players hate the course


But.... But.... But the mouth pieces of the Tour said it was the greatest thing since sliced bread
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 8:47 am to
You said the players love it multiple times.
Posted by Zanzibaw
BR
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 8:48 am to
I think we all agree it shouldn't be a Major. Can we just end this?
Posted by Melvin Spellvin
proud dad of 2 A&M honor grads
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:24 pm to
how can you be so obtuse, my point you simpleton is jack ain’t winning another major but someone (cough tiger) could catch jack’s record by increasing the opportunities even if you credit jack with his player’s wins, all in an effort by the pga to create excitement and increase viewership in order to generate more revenue from advertisers, attendees and viewers...
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 4:43 am
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
6353 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 4:05 pm to
The majors wish their finish were this good.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 4:25 pm to
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I’m so out on this idea and don’t understand what the tour’s fascination is with making this tournament the same level as the other 4 majors.


PGA Tour’s event. Largest purse in golf. Most difficult field as well.

Has all the makings of a major from that perspective.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42463 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 4:55 pm to
It is an awesome tournament. I love it. It just shouldn’t be a major.
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