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Emergency Fund In MMF?
Posted on 2/7/19 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 2/7/19 at 7:09 pm
I’m thinking of moving my emergency fund approx $50k over to VMMXX. Since it’s yield is 2.5% right now it seems like a no brainer. Aside from the lack of FDIC coverage what’s the downside?
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 7:14 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
I think your alternative is a t-bill. It’s insured and just as liquid. I could just be too drunk and not thinking clearly but yeah. I think time horizon for the MMF is the only other consideration.
Mmmm holy roller
Mmmm holy roller
Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:45 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Marcus by Goldman Sachs has a 2.35% no penalty CD and fdic insured.
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 6:25 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Capital One 360 Money Market account (FDIC insured) pays 2% right now. Up to 6 withdrawals a month. No fees.
You can get a 1 yr CD through them at 2.7%. If you have an emergency and crack into it early, it's just 3 months interest penalty. Break it into a few CDs so you may only need to crack one if your hot water heater blows up, etc.
You can get a 1 yr CD through them at 2.7%. If you have an emergency and crack into it early, it's just 3 months interest penalty. Break it into a few CDs so you may only need to crack one if your hot water heater blows up, etc.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 6:37 am to tigersnipen
I see a lot of suggestions for CDs? Why would I use a CD which is more restrictive than a MMF? I honestly don’t care about FDIC insurance because let’s be real Vanguard is too big to fail.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 6:41 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Reason to use a CD would be better rates, that’s about all.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 4:18 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Why would I use a CD which is more restrictive than a MMF?
Look up the No-Penalty CDs. You can remove your contribution and interest at any time. If a MMF has the same or better rate then yes it isn't worth it. If the CD has a better rate then seems like you are leaving money on the table.
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 4:21 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Do you have to sell VMMXX to transfer it out of your account first? Or is it treated like cash and always available for withddrawl? That would be the only downside I could think of.
I keep 1/3 of my emergency fund in cash/money market that I can withdrawal at any time at Fidelity. The other 2/3 I keep in short term treasury/corp bonds.
I keep 1/3 of my emergency fund in cash/money market that I can withdrawal at any time at Fidelity. The other 2/3 I keep in short term treasury/corp bonds.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 5:35 pm to gpburdell
the settlement fund at vanguard IS the federal money market fund. Easy to transfer money in and out. That is what I use to shuffle funds back and forth from my bank.
However the OP is not referencing the federal mm fund I use. He’s talking about the prime MM. I’d have to see if he can use that as a default settlement MM fund like I do with the federal. He may have to sell that to move money if it can’t be used as a settlement fund.
However the OP is not referencing the federal mm fund I use. He’s talking about the prime MM. I’d have to see if he can use that as a default settlement MM fund like I do with the federal. He may have to sell that to move money if it can’t be used as a settlement fund.
This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 2/8/19 at 10:32 pm to Twenty 49
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Break it into a few CDs so you may only need to crack one if your hot water heater blows up, etc.
You are doing it wrong if you have to break a CD to replace a water heater, that is not an emergency, that is maintenance.
Posted on 2/9/19 at 4:04 pm to cave canem
Mine is in VMMXX and has been for years. I see no downside.
Posted on 2/9/19 at 7:15 pm to bovine1
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Mine is in VMMXX and has been for years. I see no downside.
ok and? did you get it switched out with the federal MM like i discussed above as your new settlement fund? or are you having to sell as a regular fund in the brokerage account when you need money??
Posted on 2/10/19 at 8:51 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Ally is currently offering a 2.2% regular savings rate.
Posted on 2/10/19 at 9:47 am to Joshjrn
The Federal fund is the one they clear through. So transfer enough to it to clear trades and leave the rest in VMMXX. I don't consider that a big deal personally. If it bothers you just use the Federal Fund instead of Prime. I just went and checked and right now the Federal fund is paying 2.32% and Prime is paying 2.47%. I guess if I traded alot and it bothered me to make the transfers I'd just use the Federal fund.
Posted on 2/10/19 at 9:56 am to bovine1
Fellows I think slow and getting slower. I guess another question you should ask yourself is whether you should be trading with your emergency fund. if the answer is no then I see no downside to keeping it in Prime.
Posted on 2/10/19 at 10:34 am to cave canem
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You are doing it wrong if you have to break a CD to replace a water heater, that is not an emergency, that is maintenance.
Yep, but the example was the "hot water heater blows up, etc."
Don't worry. I have plenty of cash on hand for either situation without the need to crack a CD.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:35 am to Twenty 49
i am building a house and have a pretty good down payment once i close. i am a capitol one customer. any reason not to let my down payment sit there (money market 360 account) and gain some interest until closing time?
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:38 pm to bayou choupique
Mysavingsdirect is at 2.37 right now.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 7:36 pm to bayou choupique
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i am a capitol one customer.
as am I. i have my solo 401k with them
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any reason not to let my down payment sit there (money market 360 account) and gain some interest until closing time?
no, leave it there. i use that MM account also to get some interest prior to making investments. all these MM are are so close you are splitting hairs if you move it over such a fractional amount. Just like i use the vanguard MM to hold emergency monies from my other taxable non retirement bank account.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 7:41 pm
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