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Outdoor Fireplaces - Looking for advice...
Posted on 2/25/18 at 10:11 am
Posted on 2/25/18 at 10:11 am
I’ve got a small backyard area in our garden home. It has a small patio area under roof that we extended with an insulated patio. The next step is extending that with an uncovered brick patio.
I’ve got a friend whose going to help me with the patio. I’m going to pour concrete and then set the bricks. But while I’m doing that, I plan on pouring the footing or base for an outdoor fireplace as I figure it will be much less than calling a company back out there to pour a much smaller area for a one off job.
My question is how big should I go? I’m on a 1/3 acre lot total, and I’m not planning an outdoor kitchen down the road as my backyard area is just too small to implement it aesthetically. I plan on placing it on the outside corner and facing it back towards my house. I think a small wrap around would be ideal to “point,” the heat back to the patio area itself.
My main goal is to provide warmth for the outdoor area. Here’s a pic of what I’m talking about. The uncovered brick section of the patio will extend out to be even with the rear of my house.
Any suggestions on sizing? Or pics of your fireplace projects? My goal is to have the patio done for Spring and the fireplace ready for Fall.
Thanks in advance guys.
I’ve got a friend whose going to help me with the patio. I’m going to pour concrete and then set the bricks. But while I’m doing that, I plan on pouring the footing or base for an outdoor fireplace as I figure it will be much less than calling a company back out there to pour a much smaller area for a one off job.
My question is how big should I go? I’m on a 1/3 acre lot total, and I’m not planning an outdoor kitchen down the road as my backyard area is just too small to implement it aesthetically. I plan on placing it on the outside corner and facing it back towards my house. I think a small wrap around would be ideal to “point,” the heat back to the patio area itself.
My main goal is to provide warmth for the outdoor area. Here’s a pic of what I’m talking about. The uncovered brick section of the patio will extend out to be even with the rear of my house.
Any suggestions on sizing? Or pics of your fireplace projects? My goal is to have the patio done for Spring and the fireplace ready for Fall.
Thanks in advance guys.
This post was edited on 2/25/18 at 10:14 am
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:12 pm to GFunk
This is mine.
I can’t post a picture off imgur from phone anymore.
ETA: mine is 10ft y’all from the patio. My yard falls off from my house so the base of it is around 6ft by itself. Its foundation is 10inch of quikrete by 10’ by 5 or 6’. It has 6piers that go down 18ish “. They’re 8-10” in diameter.
From that it’s mason blocks and crushed limestone.
On top of that it’s a Firerock outdoor fireplace kit and brick. It has firebrick in the firebox.
I did it all by myself. I am not a mason so this thing took me forever. Started the patio in feb of 2016. Finished it pretty quickly. I finished the fireplace that July. The rest of it I finished last year. Rest if it meaning the rock retaining wall and flower beds.
I can’t post a picture off imgur from phone anymore.
ETA: mine is 10ft y’all from the patio. My yard falls off from my house so the base of it is around 6ft by itself. Its foundation is 10inch of quikrete by 10’ by 5 or 6’. It has 6piers that go down 18ish “. They’re 8-10” in diameter.
From that it’s mason blocks and crushed limestone.
On top of that it’s a Firerock outdoor fireplace kit and brick. It has firebrick in the firebox.
I did it all by myself. I am not a mason so this thing took me forever. Started the patio in feb of 2016. Finished it pretty quickly. I finished the fireplace that July. The rest of it I finished last year. Rest if it meaning the rock retaining wall and flower beds.
This post was edited on 2/25/18 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:32 pm to bbvdd
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bbvdd
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This is mine.
I can’t post a picture off imgur from phone anymore.
ETA: Very nice indeed
This post was edited on 2/25/18 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 2/25/18 at 12:50 pm to GFunk
Is your patio cover separated from the roof or tied in? Asking because I want to do something similar to our back patio. Does rainwater run off the roof onto the cover? If it does tie in, how... flashing?
Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:15 pm to meeple
It’s tied in on the far/back side. On the other, it’s over the roof and they then installed gutters on the original roof line. The two roof edges were at different heights so we had to go that way. Have experienced zero issues with water or wind.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:18 pm to bbvdd
Thanks for the response. When you have the fireplace going, do you feel adequate warmth under the patio?
Also, what’s the size of the firebox?
Also, what’s the size of the firebox?
This post was edited on 2/25/18 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 2/25/18 at 2:38 pm to GFunk
quote:Sit close to it.
When you have the fireplace going, do you feel adequate warmth under the patio?
Posted on 2/25/18 at 3:35 pm to GFunk
Not sure what you’re asking about the side of the firebox?
It’s all firebrick inside
It’s all firebrick inside
Posted on 2/25/18 at 4:02 pm to bbvdd
I want to know what size folks have used and how much warmth they generate based on distance. This helps me figure out the size kit (knowing what size firebox) to buy and how much concrete to pour.
This post was edited on 2/25/18 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 2/25/18 at 4:18 pm to GFunk
My patio is 20x30. If it’s a big fire you can feel it at the end if it’s a warmer night (60s). If it’s cold (30s to low 40s) outside you cannot feel it unless you’re in a chair pretty close.
I just realized that one isn’t the finished product. Let me see if I can find one.
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I just realized that one isn’t the finished product. Let me see if I can find one.
ETA
This post was edited on 2/25/18 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 2/25/18 at 7:18 pm to bbvdd
I’m doing a poor job of communciating my question. I’m sorry.
How big is the firebox? The space between the interior edges where you place the wood in your fireplace.
How big is the firebox? The space between the interior edges where you place the wood in your fireplace.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 9:08 pm to GFunk
Ah. Gotcha. It’s a 42” firebox. The back wall is probably a 30”. The front 38” or so.
Posted on 2/26/18 at 8:41 am to bbvdd
Thanks. I think I'm going to opt for something as big as I can get to ensure it'll generate as much warmth as possible. More $ but hopefully it'll be worth it.
Posted on 2/26/18 at 9:18 am to GFunk
Pay special attention to your slab loading and your footings. The weight of a brick fireplace like that will crack a slab very fast.
Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:15 am to GFunk
My first suggestion would be to burn the LSU flag. 
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:13 pm to GFunk
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On the other, it’s over the roof and they then installed gutters on the original roof line.
How is it mounted to your roof? I'm looking to do something similar, except it will be over our roof line on both sides of the corner.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:31 pm to GFunk
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My main goal is to provide warmth for the outdoor area.
put some recessed radiant heaters in your over hang. if you want flames get something gas on the ground in addition, so you dont smell like smoke and you can easily turn it on or off.
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