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re: LOTR thoughts: why is Frodo portrayed as some hero?

Posted on 1/3/18 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 4:06 pm to
Oh yes, he is clearly just trolling. But my nerddom for all things Middle Earth compels me to reply to him, even though I know I shouldn't. In a sense, I am Frodo, OP is the Ring, and here I stand at the Cracks of Doom, arguing with him instead of just letting him fall into the flames.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 4:20 pm to
Frodo is the mediocre running back
Sam is the all american full back

RBs get all the glory, no matter what
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 4:29 pm to
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When OP brushes off the soul crushing duty of bearing the ring across unknown, hostile territory to the doorstep of the most powerful individual in Middle Earth, all the while being hounded by wraiths and other murderous shite, and says "yeah but what else has he done", I tend to think we're dealing with a troll.


Sam volunteered for the same journey.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 4:29 pm to
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Frodo is the mediocre running back
Sam is the all american full back

RBs get all the glory, no matter what



I can dig this analogy. I’m glad someone recognizes it
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
5355 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 4:58 pm to
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So? Does it make my point that Sam was the real hero any less valid?
Yes. Yes it does. You don't see that?
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9298 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 5:36 pm to
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Sam did have possession of the ring and he gave it back. Regardless it’s a moot point. Ring isn’t destroyed without Sam. And imo Frodo needed Sam more than Sam needed Frodo




This is like saying the most important part of a car invented is the tires because the rest of the car cant drive without the tires.

Completely ignoring the internal combustion engine.


This whole thread HAS to be a troll
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19966 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:03 pm to
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So? Does it make my point that Sam was the real hero any less valid? Frodo would be a Sméagol if not for Sam



I like your point. Did smeagul have a fat Sam? Never talks about it.

Frodo wasn't going to do it without Sam. He was lucky to have him. I'm sure that whole Goonies experience helped him prepare mentally
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:38 pm to
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Sam volunteered for the same journey.
a) No one has argued that Sam isn't a hero. Nice strawman.

b) Aren't you forgetting something? Maybe something that makes Frodo's journey a shite ton more difficult than Sam's?
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