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selling fill dirt

Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted by lgtiger
LA
Member since May 2005
1136 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:40 pm
I am considering selling fill dirt from my property. The type of soil is the clay they are buying for Morganza to gulf project. Considering 2 acres. Anyone have experience with this and what they are paying?
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21909 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:41 pm to
Where you located?
Posted by lgtiger
LA
Member since May 2005
1136 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:42 pm to
Thibodaux area
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38723 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

Anyone have experience with this


Unless you sit at the gate and count every truck that leaves, they'll steal from you.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:57 pm to
Well get it tested and approved as a clay borrow pit from the USACE then you can sell easily.

Also need to watch the trucks Bc as they said they will under report.

Or you can just be smart about it and core drill and survey for quantity and just do neat qty’s of material removed. Then you don’t have to count trucks, the survey says it all.
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 1:00 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20386 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 1:18 pm to
Is 2 acres enough? That doesn't sound like much ground for someone to mess with?
Posted by bayou choupique
the banks of bayou choupique
Member since Oct 2014
1818 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Is 2 acres enough? That doesn't sound like much ground for someone to mess with?


this, for it to be worth a contractor's time, they will want to buy more than 2 acres with of dirt.
Posted by rodnreel
South La.
Member since Apr 2011
1313 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 2:41 pm to
Typically you will sell to the contractor who will dig and haul the dirt. There are two ways to measure dirt, in place and vehicle cu. yds. There is easily 35% difference between the two. When you dig and place in a truck it fluffs up. When negotiating make sure this is clear.

Another way to determine volume instead of counting trucks is to get a surveyor to give you before and after elevations of the pit. They can provide you an in place volume "cu. yds" of what was dug.
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 2:43 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 2:46 pm to
Pre and post surveys easily the most accurate option.
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2327 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 2:47 pm to
Depends on haul distance usually as to if it is worth it or not. 2 acres, 10' deep generates 32,000 cy. Hiring surveyor after is the best way to determine yardage removed.
Posted by lgtiger
LA
Member since May 2005
1136 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 3:40 pm to
Thanks to all for the advice
Posted by rodnreel
South La.
Member since Apr 2011
1313 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 6:08 pm to
2 acres, 10' deep generates 32,000 cy. Hiring surveyor after is the best way to determine yardage removed.

The yardage depends upon the configuration of the 2 acres. You can't dig right up to the property line plus you usually keep some sort of ingress to the back. The walls are generally on a slope.

The survey has to be before and after otherwise it cant be done with any degree of accuracy.
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 7:35 pm
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
12120 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 6:22 pm to
Don't forget you are going to be required to have a permit from the State and possibly Army COE.
Posted by lgtiger
LA
Member since May 2005
1136 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 7:30 pm to
It's in the middle of pasture, would have to slope sides for cattle
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2327 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 11:54 pm to
Plenty of other variables that he didnt give, so was just giving back of the napkin number based on 1 acre foot being 1620 cy (1613.333 to be precise). Approximation that we do everyday as site developmemt engineers. Before survey not neccessary if his 2 acres is generally level.
Posted by diehard24
Member since Oct 2006
470 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:10 pm to
Thats probably too far away for Morganza. The dirt pits for these projects are located fairly close to the levees. May want to check with North Lafourche Levee District instead or it may better suited for private contractors/developers or City of Thibodaux/Lafourche Parish projects.
Posted by Dipcan
Member since Jan 2018
2 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 5:50 pm to
Depending on where your digging around Thibodaux, you will more than likely run into plenty of cypress stumps and it will not be worth the trouble to the contractor. Also, keep in mind there are two local contractors that have been doing levee work for a long time and own a lot of the pits next to the projects.

You would be better off selling your fill material to people looking to build house pads.
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