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re: First time homebuyer... was told to come here

Posted on 12/7/17 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33956 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 3:33 pm to
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each have about $10,000 in savings
did anyone say bitcoin yet?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41128 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 3:40 pm to
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A good rule is too put as much down as needed to avoid PMI, b/c that's basically wasted money.


good advice
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20361 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:33 pm to
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I’d rather live with my parents than have a roommate. I bought a 2 bedroom condo and pay less a month mortgage than a comparable rental would be.


Lol, why? You must choose some damn terrible roommates then.

People live with wives their whole lives, but a guy is completely different? I've never understood this. You can get two kinds of roommates or a combo of both, one is just a nice reliable person that you have little in common with that keeps quiet, cleans up, and pays the bills. The other is a friend that sucks as a roommate but you drink and watch football with, etc.

I've never understood the reason to live alone when you can share your bills and have more
Money. To each their own.

My point was simply that most rentals are pretty basic places, hard to get away from a roommate. Buying is different, you can buy some odd floor plans for a family but actually work out great for a roommate as you each get a separate space.
Posted by StealthCalais11
Lurker since 2007
Member since Aug 2011
12443 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 6:49 pm to
Well, I guess this would be an ideal thread to post this in:

I am looking to be a first time home builder. This is my current idea - I can buy an acre of land in a multi-family zoned area for 80-100K in a rapidly growing college town a few miles from the campus. I do not have the funds to build an apartment complex type structure. However, my thoughts were to buy it, build a small 2 bed 1 bath shotgun style home (see below; exact replica with bright colors & white fence) for 60-80K. Live in it. In a year, cash out re-finance & build another. Rinse & repeat until I've reached the desired amount of homes, & basically have built a neighborhood row of them.

Thoughts? Any experiences?

Posted by lsujro
north of the wall
Member since Jul 2007
3916 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:17 am to
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Thoughts


i think this is worthy of its own thread, since you are really talking about investment properties.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 2:58 pm to
You can find loans that offer a slightly higher APR without PMI. The difference here is that a PMI loan can eventually have PMI removed. A higher interest rate will not change unless you are able to refinance at a lower rate. This is not likely to happen with rates at all time lows.

My advice is to buy the most house you can afford based on monthly income. Then I would put down the least amount possible and use the rest in other investments. You can always pay off early, but you can't get cash back that you put down. I would rather have cash for the first year or so in case any unexpected surprises are found that are commonly missed by an "inspection".

Lastly, try to save money and avoid realtors. Real estate lawyers cost a small fraction of realtor fees. As a buyer, you can find houses easily online, setup great searches and even find comps quickly. I recommend Redfin.com, but there are others as well.
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 3:01 pm
Posted by lsujro
north of the wall
Member since Jul 2007
3916 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 3:17 pm to
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Lastly, try to save money and avoid realtors. Real estate lawyers cost a small fraction of realtor fees. As a buyer, you can find houses easily online, setup great searches and even find comps quickly. I recommend Redfin.com, but there are others as well.


as a buyer, there is almost no advantage to going without realtor unless you are going to buy from an unrepresented seller.
Posted by Tiger4Life
God's Country
Member since Jan 2004
550 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 7:35 am to
You may consider a USDA Rural Development guaranteed loan from a lender if you are under the income limit and home located in an eligible rural area. No down payment required
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 7:39 am
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:53 pm to
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as a buyer, there is almost no advantage to going without realtor unless you are going to buy from an unrepresented seller.


You can easily negotiate that 3% fee to go towards the price of the house.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:44 am to
To start with, you do not need to find a realtor first. Finding a realtor is a separate process from finding a mortgage broker, which is what you need to do first. You need to determine what your budget is, which is what a broker can accomplish, along with giving you a pre-approval letter.

Said preapproval letter is almost a necessity to view any properties within your price range. Most sellers don't want to show homes to folks they don't know can belly up to the bar and pay for their drinks so to speak. Again though...don't let Realtors oversell or hyperventilate about why you need them first. Plenty of folks buy and sell homes without them. But only independently wealthy folks buy and sell homes without someone to help them through the mortgage process.

Find several well respected Brokers within your social circle (family, friends, coworkers, etc). DO NOT FEEL BEHOLDEN TO USE ANY OF THEM.

Tell them all you're going to talk to others up front. Ask to schedule a time to meet them for coffee or lunch, etc. Don't go looking for a free cup or lunch. Let them know your financial situation. Maybe bring you and the wife's check stubs and your W-2's. Have a solid idea about your assets and your monthly payments.

Tell them what you want...Tell them what you know...admit to them what you don't know...and tell them you want to learn. The average American spends 3-5 years in a mortgage before selling, refinancing, etc. You need to educate yourself about this stuff because chances are you're going to buy this house, refinance this house a time or two, sell this house, buy a new house, and then perhaps refinance it.

That's a significant # of real-estate transactions and developing a relationship with an established broker can create trust and a partner for each of these processes.

I'm suggesting a broker as opposed to a bank loan officer. Why? This is because a banker can only loan his bank's money. No matter how much he sells you on his flexibility, they will never be as flexible as a mortgage broker. A broker probably lends his own company's $, but also has access to a range of lenders who have multiple instruments or loans.

The advantage of the banker is that your closing costs may be slightly lower. The advantage of the broker is finding a more customized solution that fits you as a homeowner and a family for the long-term as opposed to a cookie-cutter, off-the-rack solution that the bank offers (which is often limited).

The $ difference in terms of closing costs can often be offset with tax deductibility of some costs, etc.

But whomever you feel most comfortable with and the person you feel educates you the most and the person who is the most up-front with you is the person you should give the first opportunity to. He may not be the guy or gal you go back to, but someone whose willing to throw the curtain back and make sure you understand the why of what's going on and bring you up to speed and integrate you is more than likely someone you're going to be able to work with moving forward.

Good luck.

This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 10:46 am
Posted by lsujro
north of the wall
Member since Jul 2007
3916 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:51 am to
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You can easily negotiate that 3% fee to go towards the price of the house.



i call bullshite on this. seller's contract with listing agent specifies the total %. agent would just take both sides of the cut.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:43 pm to
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i call bullshite on this. seller's contract with listing agent specifies the total %. agent would just take both sides of the cut.


Seller's contract must specify how much for each agent. For example, in NC it is standard to actually give listing agent 3.6% and buyer agent 2.4% instead of the even split in other areas. It is very easy to work with the buyer and get 2-3% price reduction for not working with realtor.
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