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re: PS4's Gaikai streaming service confirmed for early 2014 in U.S.

Posted on 9/3/13 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/3/13 at 3:57 pm to
As far as how Gaikai works...

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Some people seem confused by how cloud gaming works. Basically, your system acts a bit like your router, taking in data from across the internet and displaying it on your TV. All the hard bits – the bits usually handled by the graphics/processing chips inside your machine – are done thousands of miles away. You really can’t tell the difference. Think about how amazed you were when you first used a decent wireless controller, and then scale that out to the distance between you house and a server farm on the other side of the country. It’s amazing technology and you don’t need superfast speeds to take advantage of it (although your allowance might take a hit).

This is where things become more impressive. Rather than your PS4 working out how to play Ps3 games, it just connects to what is effectively a PS3 and lets that do the work. No need for extra parts or strange errors. Better than that though, Sony can give you access to thousands of games without hardly any time or effort on their part. It’s as easy as uploading it - once – and then letting people get at it.

Cloud Gaming might not have hit its stride yet, but you can see why it’s the most logical way of handling backwards compatibility on the PS4. Once the service is up, they can release hundreds of games over a matter of weeks.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15318 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 4:00 pm to
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. You really can’t tell the difference.


This is the only part I am skeptical about. OnLive said the same thing.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
77927 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 4:02 pm to
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This is the only part I am skeptical about. OnLive said the same thing.



Yep. And you absolutely could tell the difference.

Frame rates were good, but there were compression artifacts constantly.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65759 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 4:04 pm to
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This is the only part I am skeptical about. OnLive said the same thing.



Yeah, they really half assed OnLive and didn't have near the power/technology Gaikai is providing.
Posted by DieDaily
West of a white house
Member since Mar 2010
2644 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 4:18 pm to
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Correct me if I am wrong, but this is what an emulator does, and is all software.

There are certainly some exceptions I'm not aware of, but backwards compatibility on the PS2 and PS3 is/was handled via a physical chip on the motherboard.

From what I've read, the PS1 chip on the PS2 was actually the PS2's sound chip when playing PS2 games.

The PS2 chip on the PS3 motherboard was removed in later versions of the console to cut costs. There was software emulation at some point for select PS2 games but Sony removed it from later models because compatibility issues continued to crop up (and they probably got tired of supporting it). This is why the current PS3 has no backwards compatibility with PS2 games.

The problem with software emulation is exactly what Sony ran into. Designing software to emulate all of the various nuances of a physical piece of hardware requires a lot of trial and error and revisions.

You can see this by just running a PS2 or Gamecube emulator on your PC. The big titles usually run fairly well, but you'll run into weird glitches all the time on other games. It took a long time for the current SNES and Genesis emulators to get where they are today, with perfect (or near) emulation. I remember playing FF3 and Chrono Trigger on early versions of SNES9x and having to turn off various graphical layers to make some parts of the game playable.
Posted by tconle2
Member since Sep 2011
4104 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 5:11 pm to
I can't decide if I should go ahead and continue to buy PS3 games and still have a physical copy since I still have all my others. Many times I can get a physical copy cheaper than a download copy. Or should I just download the PS3 games on my PS4. I might just keep my PS3 since it still works as a blu-ray player.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
77927 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 5:14 pm to
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From what I've read, the PS1 chip on the PS2 was actually the PS2's sound chip when playing PS2 games.



Yep
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