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re: Part II: General speed questions, and please recommend a router

Posted on 6/26/13 at 9:07 am to
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 6/26/13 at 9:07 am to
Try it in the morning. 9 pm is a time when there is a lot of traffic.

I'm not sure on how cox handles bandwidth during high traffic hours for people who are paying for 50Mbps. I' assuming it won't be much better. But you might have to ask.

But still those speeds suck for peak hours since Cox upgraded the speeds. In Lafayette last night I was getting around 20Mbps down 28Mbps up.

On another note, it could be a problem with your router. Also check the speeds on all of your devices. Check your computer with a direct connect to you modem with ethernet
This post was edited on 6/26/13 at 9:09 am
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 6/26/13 at 9:11 am to
quote:

that's the peak and probably a number I'll never reach


You should be able to go past it during ideal conditions. From cox I'm constantly getting around 30.

Make sure your zoom is a docsis 3.0 though. How old is it? If bought recently it probably is.

The best test will be a direct connect to the modem. Shut off your router when you do this.
This post was edited on 6/26/13 at 9:13 am
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 6/26/13 at 9:18 am to
Thanks, I'll give it a shot when I get home this evening.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/26/13 at 10:21 am to
Here's a list of router/modem combos that are Docsis 3.0 LINK

I'm actually about to replace my old non Docsis 3.0 router and upgrade my internet speed at the same time. Probably gonna get this one LINK
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 6/26/13 at 6:25 pm to
23.81 down
8.17 up

With my crappy laptop connected directly to the modem. And the modem is a Zoom, model 5241. It's probably 6-7 years old.
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 6:57 am to
Your zoom supports up to 42 Mbps down and 10 Mbps up. So that's up to you if you want to upgrade to 50Mbps, but for right now it can handle what your paying for download but not upload. I'm only saying that about upload bc cox seems to be allowing more than advertised.

Run your test again with direct connect, when you get around those speeds again, run the test through wifi with your ipad. If there is a huge difference then there is probably a problem with your router.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:39 am to
I tried again with my iPad after using the computer and got speeds similar to what I posted in page 1. I guess that narrows it down to the router.

I assume the modem is fine, so I should just get a new router. I'll start looking on amazon. I also saw that hogfan posted a couple but I'm unsure if I need something like that.
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 11:40 am
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:45 am to
quote:

I also saw that hogfan posted a couple but I'm unsure if I need something like that.


those are modem/routers in one, similar to what cox sells.

quote:

I tried again with my iPad after using the computer and got speeds similar to what I posted in page 1

try another device through wifi, just to make sure it is not your iPad
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 11:47 am
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:50 am to
Roger that.


I'm just debating on getting a newer all in one for future use, or just a new router now as it will be cheaper.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:22 pm to
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1.07

From my phone.


New router it is.


Thanks again fellers.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
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Posted on 6/28/13 at 9:20 pm to
these router issues are getting to be quite a problem
Posted by Casty McBoozer
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Posted on 6/28/13 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

It's a plain old Netgear router that's about 5-6 years old. I'm kind of impressed that there are 4 replies and they're all semi-serious.

Thanks again guys, ill start looking for a new one.

I'll give you some advice contrary to what most of the dipshits here will tell you. Most people will probably tell you to go to BestBuy and pickup whatever they're peddling.

There is no decent router at any store nearby, so don't bother.

Ubiquiti continues to impress me, even with their consumer/inexpensive stuff.

Something like this: LINK

That's if you actually need a router. Most people don't know what a router is or does, though, and I'm not sure if you do.

The main purpose of a home router is NATing. (NAT for network address translation). It takes one address either given by a bridged modem or statically assigned by your ISP, and passes traffic from that public IP to private IP addresses on your LAN. NAT is what allows multiple devices on your network to use the one internet connection.

That would be the case if you had something like a Motorola Surfboard modem...at least the older ones like I have that are simple bridges..I don't know if the new ones do routing / NAT built in.

If your "modem" has multiple LAN ports then it most likely also a router itself. If that's the case, then you don't need a router. You just need a switch or a wireless access point.

You're probably thinking, "What the frick is this dork talking about". I'll try to dumb it down.

Your cable modem has a coaxial cable coming into it.

Besides that port, how many RJ45 ports (looks like telephone plug, but slightly larger) are there?

If only 1, then it's just a modem/bridge, and you need to buy a router.

If multiple (normally about 4) then the modem is also a router itself and you don't need a router. In fact, adding a router to an already routed network is stupid, and will most likely cause strange problems especially if you ever need to do anything with port forwarding.

So, if you don't need a router, I would suggest just using an access point like this: LINK which is an enterprise class, scalable AP system at a good price. Or if you want to take advantage of 5 Ghz spectrum (more speed wirelessly) you can go with: LINK


InB4 too long can't read.
This post was edited on 6/28/13 at 10:09 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/29/13 at 8:45 am to
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 7/1/13 at 11:13 am to
My modem only has one plug on the back so I always assumed I needed the router. You are correct in assuming I don't know jack shite about this stuff because I don't. Per my esteemed colleague, Cocomo, you're the man to listen to (not discrediting Jeff or the other folks, bc y'all helped as well).

I'll buy the router you suggested when I get back to my office a little later today. Thanks for the help.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/1/13 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

Per my esteemed colleague, Cocomo, you're the man to listen to

Boozy knows what he's talking about. He's helped me out a few times before.

[nohomo]

Also, to get to know him better, he's a semi-decent bowler. Former roommate/landlord to both Rocks and AIMS. Plus, his wife and dog are cool as frick. One of my favorite people I know from TD, no doubt.

[/nohomo]
This post was edited on 7/1/13 at 1:36 pm
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