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Refinancing a mortgage and the alternatives

Posted on 10/4/12 at 10:19 am
Posted by Rush2112
Asheville
Member since Mar 2008
842 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 10:19 am
Let’s say that you owe roughly $80k two years into a 15 year mortgage at 6% and currently banks are offering 15 year mortgages at 3%. If I understand refinancing correctly, you would pay somewhere between $1k-$2k to refinance, but your mortgage would start over with the 3% rate so you are better off in the long run.

My question is what is stopping you from just going to another bank and asking for an $80k loan at the lower interest rate? You take the lump sum of cash, pay off your 6% interest mortgage, and you are in the same boat as the situation above owing the $80k at 3%, but you avoided paying the hefty refinance fee. Is there something I’m missing that won’t allow you to do this, or hidden fees somewhere?
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
22377 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 11:01 am to
I doubt a bank would give you an 80K loan signature loan, and if they did the interest rate would be a lot higher.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37693 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 11:11 am to
Yep
Posted by ds1tiger
Closer than you think
Member since Apr 2006
359 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 11:58 am to
If you are securing the new loan with real estate, there will be costs involved no matter what. For that amount, you will be using real estate......unless you are an OT baller.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

what is stopping you from just going to another bank and asking for an $80k loan at the lower interest rate?


The fact that it's an unsecured loan, not backed by anything they can seize if you fall behind.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:55 pm to
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mortgages at 3%


This is what you're missing.

As has been stated, the 15 year loan is still secured by real estate and will still cost money to originate. No way around that.

Your only way around this is to ask to have your closing costs rolled into the principle balance. No idea if anyone is doing this or not.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

Your only way around this is to ask to have your closing costs rolled into the principle balance. No idea if anyone is doing this or not.


I am about 2 weeks away from closing my refi and I am rolling everything into the principal. It's insane not to borrow as much as possible for as long as possible at these rates.
Posted by Rush2112
Asheville
Member since Mar 2008
842 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 1:44 pm to
Got it, that make sense. Knew that I was missing something.

Thanks for the help, all
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