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Cabinet Wood

Posted on 1/5/22 at 10:56 am
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/5/22 at 10:56 am
What type of wood are most quality cabinets made of? We got our first quote back on cabinets and it’s insane how high it is and I’m wanting to see why but not sure what questions to ask. I know the price of wood is really high but it still seems insanely high. Thanks for any input.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15007 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 11:06 am to
Well, a few questions first.

Custom built cabinets or off the floor standard stuff?

Plywood carcass or particle board with real wood facing, doors and drawer fronts?

What kind of wood? Some hardwoods are more expensive than others.

Raised panel type doors or basic flat surfaced?

What type finish?

What type hardware?

Soft closing drawers and doors?

Sliding shelving?

For types of wood, there's oak, cherry, maple, cypress, birch, hickory can be used for drawer fronts, doors and face frames, ie, any exposed wood.

Most frames and shelving are made from plywood which is more stable than gluing up hardwood. Lots of the interior components like the actual drawers are made from poplar with drawer bottoms out of 1/4" plywood unless the drawer is real big, then they beef it up to at least 3/8".
This post was edited on 1/5/22 at 11:17 am
Posted by jmon
Mandeville, LA
Member since Oct 2010
8403 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 11:08 am to
Does the price include install?
Painting?
Just kitchen or whole house?
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4153 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 11:11 am to
Custom built cabinets they told me they use maple. They’re all soft closing, only a few have sliding shelving, paint finish and panel doors.
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4153 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 11:17 am to
Price is for the whole house and installed, not painted and does not include putting counter tops on.
Posted by jmon
Mandeville, LA
Member since Oct 2010
8403 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 11:18 am to
What was the price quoted, and is it a custom build?
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15007 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 11:22 am to
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Custom built cabinets they told me they use maple.


OK. So the face frames, drawer fronts and doors are solid maple. Well, the door frames should be but I'm pretty sure they will wind up using birch plywood for the inserts if there's no raised panel profile on them.

They are also probably using birch plywood for the carcass since birch and maple have very similar graining patterns and finish real close to one another if staining, but since you are painting, that is a moot point.

What you don't want is particle board carcasses with a very thin veneer on the exposed areas.

Be sure to ask what the carcass is being built out of before committing.
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4153 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 12:20 pm to
Ok thanks
Posted by BruslyTiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/5/22 at 12:26 pm to
If you are painting the cabinets then why use maple at all. That seems overkill for painted cabinets.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15007 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

If you are painting the cabinets then why use maple at all.


Yep. You can get the same results using poplar for the solid wood parts. It is a very straight, stable grained wood that is ideal for such applications and takes paint quite well.

Hell, for interior cabinets, you can also use fir or pine which is very plentiful and cheap to buy.
Posted by mikie421
continental shelf
Member since Nov 2008
687 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 5:12 pm to
You want maple because it is much harder than poplar. It will dent and scuff less over the years.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6839 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:00 pm to
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You can get the same results using poplar for the solid wood parts. It is a very straight, stable grained wood that is ideal for such applications and takes paint quite well.


This. I just had a 4x9 kitchen island build out of poplar and birch that's painted and looks great.
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