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Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated
Posted on 11/20/21 at 10:43 am
Posted on 11/20/21 at 10:43 am
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The brown line represents weekly deaths from all causes of vaccinated people aged 10-59, per 100,000 people.
The blue line represents weekly deaths from all causes of unvaccinated people per 100,000 in the same age range.
I have checked the underlying dataset myself and this graph is correct. Vaccinated people under 60 are twice as likely to die as unvaccinated people. And overall deaths in Britain are running well above normal.
I don’t know how to explain this other than vaccine-caused mortality.
The basic data is available here, download the Excel file and see table 4:
LINK
Could also mean that unhealthy people who naturally die at higher rates than healthy people are more attracted to the vaccine than healthy people.
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Posted on 11/20/21 at 10:49 am to GumboPot
Thanks for the update. Very informative
This post was edited on 11/20/21 at 10:59 am
Posted on 11/20/21 at 10:53 am to Geaux Guy
Factcheck.org…yeah, ok.
Posted on 11/20/21 at 10:54 am to Geaux Guy
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It’s extremely irresponsible to spread misinformation
The op shows a graph with death rates, and you start talking about total deaths and hospitalizations. Please stop spreading misinformation by conflating the two.
Posted on 11/20/21 at 10:55 am to Geaux Guy
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It’s extremely irresponsible to spread misinformation. Many people do not know anything about viral epidemiology or even basic statistics. Always fact check…
Look at this dumbass not knowing how rates and per capitas work.
Posted on 11/20/21 at 10:56 am to Geaux Guy
Umm, the graph is based on deaths per 100000, not total as you and fact-check allege.
If you want to talk about selection bias as the vaccinated may be less healthy and more to to vaccinate, then fine.
If you want to talk about selection bias as the vaccinated may be less healthy and more to to vaccinate, then fine.
Posted on 11/20/21 at 10:56 am to Geaux Guy
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Geaux Guy
Do you understand what the term "rate" means?
It does not mean this:
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If the large majority of a population is vaccinated, it’s not surprising if most deaths are among the vaccinated.
In that quote, "deaths" is part of the equation of "rate".
Deaths are in the numerator and time is in the denominator. Rate = deaths/day.
Your fact check is a major fail.
Posted on 11/20/21 at 10:58 am to The Boat
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Look at this dumbass not knowing how rates and per capitas work.
LOL. Never mind. Should have known. Go on confirming each other.
Posted on 11/20/21 at 10:58 am to Bwmdx
It’s very possible that these shots are negatively impacting overall immuno response meaning you might not die of Covid, but you could have problems with the Flu or other infections and that’s setting aside the myocarditis issues.
Posted on 11/20/21 at 11:00 am to Geaux Guy
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LOL. Never mind. Should have known. Go on confirming each other.
Seriously, explain to me the definition of "rate" and how it relates to my OP and your "fact check".
Let me give you a hint, they are incongruent.
Posted on 11/20/21 at 11:00 am to Geaux Guy
Your stupidity is dangerous.
Posted on 11/20/21 at 11:14 am to GumboPot
It's called vaccine-associated enhanced disease (VAED) and there is an ongoing trial to study for it that will not be complete until 2 years post dose 2.
FDA LINK page 45 for quote
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To evaluate the safety, tolerability, immunogenicity, and efficacy of BNT162b2. An unfavorable imbalance between the vaccine and control groups in the frequency of COVID-19 disease, in particular for severe COVID19 disease, may indicate the occurrence of VAED/VAERD. Surveillance is planned for 2 years following Dose 2.
FDA LINK page 45 for quote
Posted on 11/20/21 at 11:25 am to GumboPot
That dummy is just looking for a way out now. 
Posted on 11/20/21 at 11:51 am to Geaux Guy
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LOL. Never mind. Should have known. Go on confirming each other.
Posted on 11/20/21 at 11:57 am to GumboPot
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Could also mean that unhealthy people who naturally die at higher rates than healthy people are more attracted to the vaccine than healthy people.
Deaths from all causes...including covid? If so, clearly the vaccine is substantially killing more people than it is saving.
Posted on 11/20/21 at 11:58 am to Geaux Guy
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Go on confirming each other.
What a weak deflection.
You are undeniably wrong.
Your refusal to admit it exposes you as being a
Posted on 11/20/21 at 12:05 pm to Geaux Guy
another dumbphuk got something to say
Posted on 11/20/21 at 12:08 pm to GumboPot
" 2nd vaccine "
See, it's the mRNA crap that folks are dying from.
J&J is basically weak tea, that fades after a couple of months. Sounds more like a placebo than anything.
See, it's the mRNA crap that folks are dying from.
J&J is basically weak tea, that fades after a couple of months. Sounds more like a placebo than anything.
Posted on 11/20/21 at 12:09 pm to GumboPot
NM
This post was edited on 11/20/21 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 11/20/21 at 12:15 pm to lsu480
what's 70 got to do with it? clearly states betweens ages 10-59.
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