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re: Paging IotaTiger - See his quotes in post - Updates on page 2
Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:00 pm to RazorBroncs
Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:00 pm to RazorBroncs
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Everyone has short memories and forgets you had to hire Orgeron, whom nobody wanted, the last time the job was open.
Now that’s some first class laziness making an weak-arse argument like that. Having an AD with no spine who panicked when one candidate passed isn’t in the same universe as “no one wanted this job.” You might want to check and see who the AD is today. That shite isn’t happening again.
As for program measure, there’s only one- titles. I wouldn’t expect a piggy fan to know anything about that. At least OU has lost to us twice in real pursuit of one, but in the last 21 years, there’s no doubt which program is ahead here. It’s 3 to 1 and we’ve played for a 4th. The recruiting rankings tell the same story.
I’m not saying LSU is light years ahead of OU, but they are ahead in the measures that matter most TODAY. 50 years ago doesn’t matter any more than playoff participation trophies. I’m also not saying Riley takes this job, but LSU has enough advantages to make him think about it if Woodward offers.
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:26 pm to misey94
The easy 10 win season ends once OU joins the SEC. That’s why Riley would come to LSU.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 3:32 am to lesthemadhatter
Could be Kiffin…
Posted on 10/20/21 at 3:50 am to misey94
Another LSU coaching vacancy, another set of completely unrealistic expectations about who LSU will hire. This board and Tiger Nation will turn any little Riley news the next few months as him coming to BR
But we all know the hire will be one of Aranda, Napier or someone else. And the fan base will lose its shite
But we all know the hire will be one of Aranda, Napier or someone else. And the fan base will lose its shite
Posted on 10/20/21 at 4:00 am to RazorBroncs
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It makes no sense unless you're looking at it through purple and gold tinted glasses
100% our fan base is delusional to think LSU is by far and away a better job than OU. Both OU and LSU are top 5 jobs. Bama, Ohio State, LSU, Clemson and OU. Consistent winners and playoff contenders. Sure OU may not win the titles but they churn out NFL talent. That’s ultimately what matters to recruits
And let’s be honest, there’s not as much pressure at OU to win as there is at LSU. Hell, you could argue OU has a deeper football history than LSU. They don’t have recent titles but they’ve won longer, produced just as much talent and been in title games and playoffs for decades. As a completely unbiased source, why wouldn’t I stay at the place with less pressure where I’ve built relationships, sustained the program and bought years and years of mediocrity in case we suck because of past success? You think Riley would be fired in two years if he brought OU a National title? So why would he leave? Because it’s LSU? Because BR is a great place to live?
He’s going to win 9-10 games at OU in the SEC with his offense and the caliber of QBs that want to play for him. And once Saban retires, there’s an opportunity for them to cash in on if LSU makes a bad hire. Whose gonna stop them from winning the West if LSU is mediocre and Saban is gone? Jimbo?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 4:14 am to J2thaROC
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Nope. It’s why they always get their asses kicked in the playoffs when they face an SEC team
Or we can discount the times they’ve played Alabama because everyone outside of Clemson gets their asses kicked by Alabama in the playoffs or the time they played arguably the greatest college football team of all time in 2019. They damn near beat Georgia in 2017.
I would say it’s an unfair assessment to say they always get their asses kicked by the SEC. didn’t OU play board favorite Dan Mullen and his Gators and wax that arse last year?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 4:41 am to WicKed WayZ
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100% our fan base is delusional to think LSU is by far and away a better job than OU. Both OU and LSU are top 5 jobs.
I agree far and away is a stretch, but LSU is typically ranked ahead of OU by non bias analysts/writers.
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. Sure OU may not win the titles but they churn out NFL talent. That’s ultimately what matters to recruits
Pretty sure LSU puts out far more NFL talent than OU, especially defensively.
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And let’s be honest, there’s not as much pressure at OU to win as there is at LSU.
They very much have passionate fans though.
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ell, you could argue OU has a deeper football history than LSU. They don’t have recent titles but they’ve won longer, produced just as much talent and been in title games and playoffs for decades.
Old stuff is not nearly as relevant.
OU's last championship was 2000. LSU has won 3 with 3 different coaches since then. That's neat they won some championships in the 50s and 70s though.
They are in a much easier conference that they are clearly superior over and still can't get over the hump come playoffs, because the talent isn't on par. Especially defensively.
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He’s going to win 9-10 games at OU in the SEC with his offense and the caliber of QBs that want to play for him.
9 maybe, but 9 is pretty disappointing. You don't think that gets frustrating for him? Or his consistent issues with defense. People who know football think Grinch is a solid DC, but their fans want him fired as of right now. I just checked their message boards.
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Whose gonna stop them from winning the West if LSU is mediocre and Saban is gone? Jimbo?
You are totally underestimating the grind of the SEC, but okay. So Bama is magically going to just suck once Saban is gone? That's interesting. FWIW, Saban isn't retiring anytime soon. Perhaps LSU won't be mediocre? LSU kicked the ever living crap out of OU, because they had a QB on par with OU's. You say he will win 9 games with the QBs he brings in alone. How about the idea of those same QBs with him at LSU?
Not sure why you are laughing at the idea of Jimbo beating OU in the SEC, but okay. They barely beat Tulane and West Virginia. Even Arky beat the hell out of Texas and Texas went to the wire with OU. The SEC is still no joke. Jimbo nearly beat Clemson when Clemson was actually still elite.
Whether you believe it or not he would still recruit at even more impressive clip at LSU over OU. He would also get better defensive players while still getting the top offensive players he needs. Believe as you wish though. OU is a great football program. LSU has even more potential to sustain elite success with the right coach in place. It's absolutely going to be a tougher grind for OU in the SEC than what they currently face year in and year out.
Last I knew was that Alabama and LSU put the most players in the NFL of late. Perhaps that is no longer the case?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:59 am to sms151t
Nope. Iota is not bullshitting.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 6:03 am to WicKed WayZ
A lot of what you post is true. But, I firmly disagree with your assumption on OU’s success in the SEC. Will they tank? I don’t think so, I’d see more on the lines of Auburn type success.
You really underestimate what they are about to experience week in and week out vs the Big 12.
You really underestimate what they are about to experience week in and week out vs the Big 12.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 6:29 am to RazorBroncs
Dude. How many natty’s has LSU won since OK? 3!!! There is your answer. Ok has a great winning tradition but I know many who would take LSU’s success any day over theirs. When we get our shot we take it, they flounder it. I think it’s Riley too 
Posted on 10/20/21 at 7:52 am to geauxcoco
And really we should have had 4. That 2011 team was incredible.
Unfortunately we had to go up against an equally talented team a 2nd time with the greatest coach.
I believe even from a casual football fan perspective LSU is more respected than OU. Just an opinion though. I don't think championships from the 50s and 70s are as relevant as what LSU has done the past 20 years or so.
Unfortunately we had to go up against an equally talented team a 2nd time with the greatest coach.
I believe even from a casual football fan perspective LSU is more respected than OU. Just an opinion though. I don't think championships from the 50s and 70s are as relevant as what LSU has done the past 20 years or so.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:09 am to beauchristopher
So I had to put this shite down last night…figured I’d jump on and see what I missed…evidently nothing at all. Some krazy guy pissing on everyone’s hopes at 4 in the morning by posting the trifecta of negativity, and Beau typing an essay in rebuttal.
In Iotatiger I trust. Still.
In Iotatiger I trust. Still.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:41 am to geauxcoco
The better the Arizona Cardinals perform this season the more likely it is NFL teams take a harder look at Riley. It is said all the time that the NFL is a "copy cat" league, and right now young HCs (particularly offensive minded HCs) are all the rage.
If Riley's agent knows he is likely to get some NFL interest at the end of this season then I doubt he would agree to a DIFFERENT college job before the NFL season ends...unless he just absolutely has no interest in the NFL. Still, why not use that NFL interest to leverage the potential college suitors to the hilt? Point being, unless it was just an absurdly lucrative contract (which Woodward has shown he has no qualms about offering), Riley probably would not be available to hire until early January...at the earliest. Would LSU want to wait that long only to still potentially strike out?
If Riley's agent knows he is likely to get some NFL interest at the end of this season then I doubt he would agree to a DIFFERENT college job before the NFL season ends...unless he just absolutely has no interest in the NFL. Still, why not use that NFL interest to leverage the potential college suitors to the hilt? Point being, unless it was just an absurdly lucrative contract (which Woodward has shown he has no qualms about offering), Riley probably would not be available to hire until early January...at the earliest. Would LSU want to wait that long only to still potentially strike out?
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:43 am to beauchristopher
There were many who said our 2011 team had the potential to be the greatest all-time if they had won that game versus Alabama in the national championship game. There was equal excitement on that team just on the defensive side of the ball instead. What a spectacular team that unfortunately doesn’t get the credit it deserves now.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:49 am to RazorBroncs
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OU has 4x as many CFP appearances
and thats coming to an end now that they are joining the SEC. NO more cakewalk into the playoffs
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:51 am to TigerBlazer
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OU has 4x as many CFP appearances
and thats coming to an end now that they are joining the SEC. NO more cakewalk into the playoffs
Exactly.
OU would likely have 0 playoff appearances had they been in the SEC during the playoff expansion.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:03 am to jrodLSUke
Never
Posted on 10/20/21 at 10:10 am to WicKed WayZ
We have 3 should be 4 NC since 2003. Oklahoma has zero. You tell me who’s better program.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 1:44 pm to CP3LSU25
I would say LSU is a better program. That wasn't my point. My point was that it's not far and away a better job. People on here are acting like he's coaching at fricking Texas Tech.
Riley is currently at one of college football's most influential and successful programs. Why would he leave when he's about to be in the greatest conference in the country? Sure he would pull in better recruiting classes but the title of LSU HC comes with more pressure to win and they often forget your recent wins where OU is more loyal to its coaches. LSU just fired their HC after he helped bring one of, if the not the greatest college team and season ever.
As a normal person, who wouldn't want a little job security. Riley has built that up at OU and he would have to earn it at LSU. And why would he want to do that? Because it's LSU? For a couple more four stars a year? The only job I see Riley leaving OU for is a HC gig in the NFL. That's really the only step up for him.
Riley is currently at one of college football's most influential and successful programs. Why would he leave when he's about to be in the greatest conference in the country? Sure he would pull in better recruiting classes but the title of LSU HC comes with more pressure to win and they often forget your recent wins where OU is more loyal to its coaches. LSU just fired their HC after he helped bring one of, if the not the greatest college team and season ever.
As a normal person, who wouldn't want a little job security. Riley has built that up at OU and he would have to earn it at LSU. And why would he want to do that? Because it's LSU? For a couple more four stars a year? The only job I see Riley leaving OU for is a HC gig in the NFL. That's really the only step up for him.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:43 pm to lesthemadhatter
Don't know if you read this board but Iota have you heard anything new? You were the first to talk about what now seems like Riley a month ago. Have we heard anything back? Thanks
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