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re: Vader’s Model Desk: Soviet SU-85 Tank Destroyer

Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:07 pm to
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Was that thing effective at all? Looks like a cheap copy of a Stug III.


Well, it had both strengths and weaknesses. It’s main gun, the D5-S 85 mm, was effective against German armor. But, as was the case with all Soviet armored vehicles, the main gun’s effectiveness was hampered by the poor quality of Soviet tank sight optics wick limited the effective range of the gun. It also lacked any defensive machine guns which meant it was particularly vulnerable to infantry equipped with shoulder-fired anti-tank weapons like the Panzerfaust or Panzerschreck. It did have good cross county capability and a reliable engine.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:08 pm to
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But educate me, how is it not a tank?
No turret.

It is a tank destroyer.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:13 pm to
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Hey Darth, love these threads as well. But educate me, how is it not a tank? It’s armored, on tracks, has big gun? Also, do you do planes, I don’t remembe?. I’m talking WWII planes


Thanks. Basically it isn’t a tank because it lacks the heavy armor and a turret like a tank. This vehicle is based on the T34/85 tank. Basically the reason the Soviets and Germans built “assault guns” was they were cheaper to make than tanks and allows they formations to bolster their tank killing capability on the defensive.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:17 pm to
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Maybe an odd question but what is the biggest model you’ve done? Just in terms of sheer size…


I use to have a rather large 1:48 scale PBY Catalina. It looked like this…



Sadly it was a victim of some friends toddler who they should have been watching closer.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:19 pm to
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I expected the Soviets to build their tanks a little bigger.


The Soviets built simple tanks but well designed, they just built zillions of them.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:19 pm to
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Basically it isn’t a tank because it lacks the heavy armor and a turret like a tank.
Is it fair to say the reason there is no turret is so the weapon system could have a larger caliber main gun? The SU-85 has an 85mm cannon versus a the early model T-34 which had a 76.2mm?
Posted by doc baklava
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:20 pm to
It's based on a T34 chassis, so it's size is going to be comparable to a Sherman.

Look into the IS series of tanks and tank destroyers if you want the heavyweights. If you really wanna run wild, check out the T35.

Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:22 pm to
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Very cool as always. How long does one of these guys take you? Jealous for your kid(s) that they will get these one day.


Depends on how much free time I have. Usually about three weeks or so is my average I think. Now that football season is here though I’ll slow down because my Saturday’s will be spent watching football. Right now I have this kit underway…



There is a lot to this kit; it’s pretty detailed. I’m about 75% through with the hull assembly. If I had to guess it will probably be another two, maybe three weeks before it’s ready.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:27 pm to
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Is it fair to say the reason there is no turret is so the weapon system could have a larger caliber main gun? The SU-85 has an 85mm cannon versus a the early model T-34 which had a 76.2mm?


No. In fact the SU-85 carried the same gun as the T-34/85, which replaced the original T-34. If you look closely at the SU-85 you’ll see it’s really a assault gun version of the T-34/85. Same chassis, same gun, same engine, just configured as an assault gun instead of a tank.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:27 pm to
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Darth_Vader

You're getting better and better, baw!

You gonna start weathering some soon?
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:29 pm to
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I expected the Soviets to build their tanks a little bigger.
That tank is for Soviet ants.

Nice work Darth, thanks for sharing.

I’ve been immersed on the Eastern Front for the past couple of weeks.

The Soviets built a imperial frick ton of artillery pieces and tanks in addition to what they got from us (U.S. and the U.K.).
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 8:33 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:29 pm to
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That tank is for ants.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:34 pm to
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You're getting better and better, baw! You gonna start weathering some soon?


Thanks. I’ve played around some. But really I’m minding liking just getting them a little dirty looking.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:42 pm to
I want to get back into models. When I was younger I had dozens of planes hanging in my room. But my friends have me shite and I threw them all away. I used to really like making models. I would take my time and preprint before assembly them weather them.
I did a few cars. But I liked to do ww2 planes dog fighting.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:46 pm to
You should do it. It’s a great hobby.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:58 pm to
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I want to get back into models.

You'd be amazed at how the hobby has grown since those times. Just go to micromark.com and look at all the tools and supplies they make now. You'd be like a kid again, but with your own money to blow.
Posted by OweO
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:06 pm to
My dad used to put together models. He mostly did planes and ships. Its tedious as hell.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:16 pm to
Darth,

You need to do a CH-53E Super Stallion decked out with HMH-465 markings. For no particular reason...
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 9:18 pm
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:24 pm to
Badass
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 10:00 pm to
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You need to do a CH-53E Super Stallion decked out with HMH-465 markings. For no particular reason...


Academy makes this 1/48 scale…



Here’s the decal set that comes in the kit.


Can you identify the unit markings?

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