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re: I see the same thing after every hurricane that hits BR
Posted on 9/3/21 at 3:43 pm to tigerbacon
Posted on 9/3/21 at 3:43 pm to tigerbacon
My hometown has underground power (South FL). Longest time we lost power was maybe a day max, but probably not even that long. Pretty insane considering how many huge storms we have had.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 3:44 pm to Herschal
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$$$ to install
$$$ to maintain
$$$ for studies
$$$ for lunches
Posted on 9/3/21 at 3:46 pm to tigerbacon
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Why don’t we start to transition to all underground wires?
He's figured it out!
Posted on 9/3/21 at 3:47 pm to Dicky
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I think the better, cheaper, easier solution is to restrict trees from being a certain distance to all utility lines and poles. I mean it sucks losing trees, I get it—but Mother Nature gonna do her thing.
Bad thing is the trees do help block a lot of that wind—and places without them are still without power also.
At least a reduction of trees would decrease repair times. Can’t get trucks in or start repairs until the trees are cleared. That takes time.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 3:48 pm to tigerbacon
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It has to be cheaper than replacing all the lines every few years in a city
but it's not
and the lines have to go overhead at some point
Posted on 9/3/21 at 3:49 pm to mikelbr
It’s been 5 days and most of br that was almost 80% without power is back on. I’m no Entergy apologist but us here in BR need to quit being such pussies.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 3:56 pm to mikelbr
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Entergy should have started undergrounding
I will say that we almost never lose power in our neighborhood outside of something major like this. I can't recall an outage longer than 30 minutes in 6-7 years until this.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 3:57 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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I’m no Entergy apologist but us here in BR need to quit being such pussies.
I’m glad someone finally said it. I know it’s hot, and everybody wants things to go back to normal, but I know a lot of people who are likely going to have to move away from the town they grew up in because everything they had is gone. People just need to be glad they’re alive. As far as I’m concerned, Baton Rouge won the fricking lottery. If Ida hadn’t taken that eastward jog and hit Baton Rouge more directly, it would gave been so much worse.
ETA: My daughter was born the night before Ida hit. The only thing I thought about was being able to bring her home to the room my wife and I put together for her. All we lost was power. I was fricking thrilled.
This post was edited on 9/3/21 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 9/3/21 at 3:57 pm to tigerbacon
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I see the same thing after every hurricane that hits BR
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but someone has to do it.
Baton Rouge is NOT going to get better. Unless you think Detroit, Chicago and New Orleans is "better".
Posted on 9/3/21 at 4:00 pm to tigerbacon
Our side is the street has above ground feeds, the rest of the neighborhood is buried. We lose power way more often than gas rest of the neighborhood but sometimes our side of the street stays on and the neighborhood is out.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 4:17 pm to armsdealer
Over 50k in BR are still out of power out of 138k. That’s not 80% fixed. And all the easy stuff is done know. For those 50k your looking at a lot more time.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 4:27 pm to tigerbacon
Just cut down all the trees. What good are they doing anybody anyway?
Posted on 9/3/21 at 4:31 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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It’s been 5 days and most of br that was almost 80% without power is back on. I’m no Entergy apologist but us here in BR need to quit being such pussies.
While many around the state may have some legit gripes about various things related to this storm, it's been hilarious watching the manly, rugged men of the OT come unglued about losing power for less than a week after a category 4 hurricane slammed 3 of the 5 largest population centers of the state.
wahhh I can only run my AC at night from my little portable generator
Imagine saying that bullshite to your grandfather lmao.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 4:50 pm to tigerbacon
My neighborhood has underground lines, but this is Louisiana and Entergy- we go out more than above ground areas around us... go figure.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 5:04 pm to tigerbacon
The real people in charge know BR and south Louisiana wont exist in 50 years so they dont spend the money for underground utilities.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 5:19 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:ours too. But the power went out at the spot down the road where a tree fell 10 feet on a janky arse line about 40 in the air. Bury them until they are out of way of trees and shite. You obviously don't have to bury them across the fricking marshes and deserts in this country. It's not rocket science.
Our neighborhood has buried lines but we still lost power. They come above ground at some point
This post was edited on 9/3/21 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 9/3/21 at 5:22 pm to LSU316
It’s easily $1 million per mile in Houston area for full buried 3 phase and neighborhood loops and that’s installed when it’s open green space. Putting that through developed areas would make that cost skyrocket.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 5:23 pm to tigerbacon
How about just a consistent program to remove and/or prune trees and vegetation on those overhead lines that they’ll never bury?
I realize that you can’t take out every tree that could fall over and hit a line. But you can clean up the shitty water oaks and crap like that that drop limbs and take out power. If those hazards were mitigated in advance, there would be much less to do when the big one hits. Plus, we wouldn’t be subject to power failures in every rainstorm.
I realize that you can’t take out every tree that could fall over and hit a line. But you can clean up the shitty water oaks and crap like that that drop limbs and take out power. If those hazards were mitigated in advance, there would be much less to do when the big one hits. Plus, we wouldn’t be subject to power failures in every rainstorm.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 5:24 pm to mikelbr
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The bullshite "it's cost prohibitive" excuse can kick rocks with Entergry.
Like I said the cost is on you and me…..are you ready for $600-800/month Entergy bills for a normal house….I’m not sure most are.
This post was edited on 9/3/21 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 9/3/21 at 5:41 pm to mikelbr
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Entergy simply doesn't do it b/c they Don't HAVE to. They aren't profit driven they aren't punished for this catastrophic failure in infrastructure. They aren't even summoned to Senate Hearings.
Entergy should have started undergrounding EVERYTHING they repaired and every NEW line since 19 fricking 99.
All of their costs are passed on to the consumers though.
Let’s say they did what you just said. A branch falls on a line and knocks out power to three blocks. Instead of spending $3k to send a bucket truck out and fix it, they spend $250k to directionally drill and run underground conduits for those blocks. They ALSO spend the $3k to fix the above ground line in the interim, because people don’t want to wait 6 months for power to come back.
Now assume they do this for every single outage caused by a tree branch. Next thing you know, Entergy has a 25 year backlog of projects and your storm offset is $250/month with no end in sight. How do you think the public would react to that? Entergy can’t just unilaterally make that decision. It has to be driven by the PSC.
Everybody is cool with the cost until they realize they are the ones that have to actually pay for it.
I agree that new installations should be run underground where possible. But that cost should (and does, I think) fall on the developers.
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