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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:26 am
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:26 am
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A study by University of Oxford scientists has found that people who contract the Delta variant of COVID-19 after being fully vaccinated carry a similar amount of the coronavirus as those who catch the disease and have not been inoculated. The researchers stressed that vaccination still offers good protection against catching the disease in the first place, and protects against getting seriously ill with it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/study-vaccines-dont-lower-viral-load-in-delta-breakthrough-cases/ar-AANuCJ4


This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 8:33 am
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:26 am to
What day is it?
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:27 am to
This is old news

Symptomatic vaxxed folks have same viral load as symptomatic unvaxxed folks

But if you are vaxxed you are less likely to be symptomatic or get infected at all
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 8:28 am
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:27 am to
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The researchers stressed that vaccination still offers good protection against catching the disease in the first place, and protects against getting seriously ill with it.
Seems like you buried the lead. That’s good news, right?
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:27 am to
And the risk of being seriously ill from this virus is already extremely low. So...beyond the elderly and immunocompromised...this is a shitty vaccine.

Edit: Downvote away, that Pfizer money must feel good.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 8:29 am
Posted by BROpaneTANK
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:28 am to
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This is old news

Symptomatic vaxxed folks have same viral load as symptomatic unvaxxed folks

But if you are vaxxed you are less likely to be symptomatic


And couple that with Delta specifically being 5x as transmissible as the original strain.

Edit: Misread a source, but 40%-60% more. It’s about 5x more transmissible than the flu.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 8:36 am
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:29 am to
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And couple that with Delta specifically being 5x as transmissible as the original strain.


Its not 5x. Its 2x at the most
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:29 am to
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This is old news

Symptomatic vaxxed folks have same viral load as symptomatic unvaxxed folks

But if you are vaxxed you are less likely to be symptomatic


Its amazing people can’t understand this

Think of the vaccine like a condom

A condom decreases your chance of shooting load and the vaccine reduces your chance of getting load

However, if a condom breaks, your load is the same as someone who doesn’t wear a conform, and if your vaccine as a breakthrough, you have the same viral load as someone unvaxxed

No idiot would ever say “condoms don’t work at all” becuase Of this, yet anti vaxxers seem to be using this as that case
Posted by poncho villa
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:30 am to
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No idiot would ever say “condoms don’t work at all” becuase Of this, yet anti vaxxers seem to be using this as that case


That's an absolutely horrible analogy
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
2511 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:31 am to
Pfizer needs to stuff more money in your pockets. Doing work. Get on the payroll. Your like Billy Tauzin up in this bitch.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:31 am to
...that is the dumbest analogy.

Of all time.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:31 am to
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That's an absolutely horrible analogy

Explain. It’s honestly almost a direct comparison.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:31 am to
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But if you are vaxxed you are less likely to be symptomatic





Ample justification for destroying our standard of living and trampling what's left of our constitutional rights.

ETA: Judging by the 8-0 DV ratio, this site has either been completely overrun by the Marxist totalitarians or the microchip shortage has hit the sarcasm detector industry.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 11:34 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:31 am to
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that is the dumbest analogy.

Walk me through it
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:33 am to
So a negative covid test should be mandatory for everyone before entering an establishment and not proof of vaccination?
Posted by Nonetheless
MAGA
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:34 am to
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:34 am to
Thousands of people who are vaxxed are getting sick with the delta strain-

I can't think of ONE person that wore a condom and got someone pregnant.

It's apples to oranges.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:35 am to
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I can't think of ONE person that wore a condom and got someone pregnant.


I know several
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108269 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:36 am to
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I can't think of ONE person that wore a condom and got someone pregnant.

How many news stories do you see on condoms breaking? How many people do you ask?

Also, I’m not comparing the statistical chance, I’m explaining how in each scenario something first has to “break”. It’s amazing you can’t comprehend that

Also, condoms break 1 out of 250 times. So that seems somewhat in line here as well even from the statistical measurement

quote:

So to provide an approximate answer to how often do condoms break, you can expect one out of every 250 condoms you use to break
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 8:37 am
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:37 am to
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I know several


Big oof for them
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