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re: DoD inspector general opens ‘evaluation’ of Space Command move to Alabama
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:49 pm to Lark3po
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:49 pm to Lark3po
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COS in no way compares to the talent in HSV...
Another big thing in Huntsville's favor is weather. You only get snow 1 day every couple of years, if even that. You can build shite faster and don't have to shutdown outside training.
Also the thousands of empty acres of land at redstone is perfect for building. Thick stable soil, you don't have to blast and dig out rock. Plus there is a dock on the Tennessee river that gives water access for shipping to the gulf.
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Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:49 pm to Perfect Circle
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What are the chances the Biden administration takes this from Alabama and gives it to a blue state?
Ummm...dead solid lock
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:52 pm to Mizzoufan26
Well, what I got from your post I replied to was the sense that there was really no significant change in the personnel and assets dedicated to the "mission," instead just mostly a name change. To which my point in response was that I believe the intention was/is to significantly grow that area of military to match the modern day importance of the burgeoning area.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:58 pm to hottub
Just like they are destroying the oil industry in tx and offshore la
They want those citizens desperate to rely on govt assistance
They want those citizens desperate to rely on govt assistance
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:02 pm to davyjones
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To ya know, develop assets at a higher and more substantial clip, perhaps to get far ahead and stay far ahead of the competition who are no doubt earnestly and aggressively working on their own gains?
Yeah...Space Command wasn’t already doing this...
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Are you of the opinion that space is not the next frontier in warfare?
Space is already a war fighting domain. It’s ALREADY in warfare.
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but surely no one would disagree that advanced technology operating from the highest "ground" possible is the current holy grail of warfare
Already occurring.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:04 pm to Mizzoufan26
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It’s the exact same pieces that were already operational dipshit.
It's one small piece, dipshit. The Army has just as big of a piece, all stationed in Huntsville. Navy also has a piece.
You have no fricking clue what you're talking about.
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:04 pm to nicholastiger
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Just like they are destroying the oil industry in tx and offshore la
Basing actions shouldn’t be handouts for state development, they should be done for military efficiency. The military is expensive and wasteful enough due to Congressional injections into the NDAA
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:05 pm to Mizzoufan26
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You realize that infrastructure is needed and necessary to support
All exists in Huntsville. With lower costs, and a larger talent pool.
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:06 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
Right, which per our "usual" approach to military preparation and development philosophy, and given leaps and bounds advances in technology throughout the world, so does our preparation and development need to advance by leaps and bounds. Thus the referenced significant enhancement of the military space program.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:12 pm to davyjones
What most people don't seem to understand is that the US space warfare presence exists in three domains. Offensive capabilities, defensive capabilities, and reconnaissance capabilities.
The Air Force owns the offensive side. The Army owns the defensive side. Reconnaissance is primarily the NRO three letter agency.
The US Space Force was created to roll all of these capabilities under one unified command. Colorado Springs is the headquarters for the AF's piece. Huntsville is the HQ for the Army's piece. Both are equally as important. What it came down to was total operational costs, and Huntsville was simply the better choice.
The Air Force owns the offensive side. The Army owns the defensive side. Reconnaissance is primarily the NRO three letter agency.
The US Space Force was created to roll all of these capabilities under one unified command. Colorado Springs is the headquarters for the AF's piece. Huntsville is the HQ for the Army's piece. Both are equally as important. What it came down to was total operational costs, and Huntsville was simply the better choice.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:19 pm to Centinel
Yeah, that makes perfect sense to me. Streamlining for the purpose of better efficiency and effectiveness.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:21 pm to davyjones
You could probably add the satellite communications (SATCOM) piece as well, but the Air Force and Army split that one pretty equally.
<----- 8.5 years in SATCOM, Army side. With a good chunk of that specifically in missile defense.
<----- 8.5 years in SATCOM, Army side. With a good chunk of that specifically in missile defense.
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:22 pm to Perfect Circle
The democrats screwed Houston out of getting one of the retired Space Shuttles likely due to politics.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:28 pm to Centinel
Where is the U.S. Army SMDC/ARSTRAT satellite site located again? Or the 1st Space Brigade? How about the 100th Missile Defense Brigade?
Let’s not pretend it was AF=Colorado, Army=Alabama.
Let’s not pretend it was AF=Colorado, Army=Alabama.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:29 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
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Where is the U.S. Army SMDC/ARSTRAT satellite site located again? Or the 1st Space Brigade? How about the 100th Missile Defense Brigade?
Where is their headquarters located? Where is the Missile Defense Agency headquartered? Where is the Missile and Space Intelligence Command of the DIA headquartered?
That's what we're talking about here. Headquarters. Not operational units.
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:54 pm to udtiger
Huntsville is screwed
No way they get it if people are already attaching and blaming Trump for the selection.
No way they get it if people are already attaching and blaming Trump for the selection.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:57 pm to Colonel Flagg
Of course they are. They're complaining Trump made a political decision to put it in a red state, so now Biden will turn around and make a political decision to put it in a blue state, and that will be seen as completely fair.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:09 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
quote:Sure you can.
you can’t just ignore the beddown or sustainment costs, which play a much larger role.
As long as the right pockets are filled. I walked out of a meeting with the secretary of interior because they wanted another feasibility study which would cost me a cool 1.5m. With a particular firm on K street to do the work, which everyone in the room knew would be kicked back to SecInt.
You really have no idea how the game is actually played.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:11 pm to lsuoilengr
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these mother frickers have no shame
“We’re going to reward our friends and punish our enemies “ - Obama, 2008
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:35 pm to Centinel
I understand that...but Colorado has tons more...plus HQs...for multiple services. Alabama has less by comparison.
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