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Would You Drive This? The most affordable long range EV sold in the US

Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:08 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17333 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:08 am
This is really only applicable to people with working electricity outside of Texas.

Would you drive this? Redesigned Chevy Bolt with a $31,000 price tag. It can charge from 0 to full in about 8 hours at home, and go about 259 miles on a charge (250 if you get the slightly larger version). It can also use public rapid charging network for a much faster charge (100 miles of charge in 30 minutes).

It also has the industry's best autonomous driving system, borrowed from Cadillac (Super Cruise). It used lidar mapping to keep the car dead center of the lane along with the standard suite of cameras and other autonomous driving features. For all divided highways, it's a fully hands free experience - something not even Tesla offers on their most expensive car.

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2022 Chevrolet Bolt EUV Adds a Crossover Body to the Bolt Lineup

A new companion to the Chevrolet Bolt EV, the 2022 Bolt EUV puts a slightly larger body on the same platform without sacrificing too much range. This latest EV from GM isn't built on the company's new Ultium platform, but it will be the first Chevy product to get the hands-free Super Cruise driver-assistance package, as well as the first EV with Super Cruise to go on sale, ahead of the upcoming Cadillac Lyriq EV and GMC Hummer EV.

The Bolt EUV hits the market looking nearly identical to the smaller Bolt EV hatchback. The two vehicles borrow some of the design cues from the previous generation. But overall the EUV's more aggressive angles borrow heavily from the 2021 Blazer.


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With a length of 169.5 inches, the 2022 Bolt EUV crossover is six inches longer than the 2022 Bolt EV. Chevy says that translates into an additional three inches of rear legroom. At 63.6 inches tall and 69.7 inches wide, the electric crossover is only 0.2 inch both wider and taller than the Bolt hatchback. Even that amount of extra legroom does cut into cargo space. Despite its larger size, the EUV has slightly less storage space than the Bolt EV at 16.3 cubic feet with seats up, versus the hatchback's 16.6. Overall cargo space with the seats down in the Bolt EUV is 56.9 cubic feet compared with the Bolt hatchback's 57.0 cubic feet. Both vehicles beat the 2021 Kona Electric's 45.8 cubic feet of cargo space and the 2020 Kia Niro EV's 53.0, but both lose to the Ford Mustang Mach-E's 59.7 cubic feet of space behind the front seats.

Inside, Chevy has ditched the slightly futuristic interior found in the current Bolt EV for something more contemporary and comfortable-looking. The automaker made the change after receiving feedback from current Bolt owners. Instead, other than the digital layout in the dash cluster that is EV focused, the interior resembles the rest of the GM lineup with a few triangle flourishes in the dash and seats. A standard 10.2-inch display houses the infotainment system. Support for wireless connections to Apple CarPlay and Android Auto is standard, as is wireless smartphone charging (which is optional on the Bolt EV hatchback).

Both the Bolt EUV and Bolt EV sit on the same BEV2 platform used in the outgoing Bolt and even have the same motor and battery. The result is 250 miles of range for the Bolt EUV from the same 65.0-kWh battery pack found in the electric hatchback. The smaller Bolt EV beats it by nine miles.


Note. The one with the excellent Super Cruise autonomous driving system will be more expensive than the base model that will be advertised everywhere. And yes, the system is objectively better than Tesla's autopilot in highway settings because of the lidar mapping that's absent in the Tesla. To counter, some versions of Tesla's autopilot can now recognize stop lights which is pretty darn impressive in mixed driving.

Link to the full Car and Driver article is at the top of page.

Sorry Texas. If you have this car (or the new Mustang Mach E, Tesla Model 3, or Cybertruck), you can't charge at home now because you guys don't know how to provide electricity in cold weather.
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 10:21 am
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:10 am to
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It can charge from 0 to full in about 8 hours at home, and go about 259 miles on a charge
no thanks
Posted by Texas ellessu
East Bank of Ward's Creek
Member since Dec 2007
573 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:13 am to
No sir. Gimme gas or diesel. F all that sustainable, renewable, organic, alternative fuel bs
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17333 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:14 am to
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no thanks


This is actually GM's old EV technology from 6-7 years ago in a new wrapper. That's how they got the price so low. Their latest Ultium stuff is coming out with the new Cadillac Lyric and Hummer EV later this year, which will charge must faster. Unfortunately those cars are going to be closer to $100K.

In fairness to them - does your car refuel in your garage while you sleep? For the people that want an EV for a commuter car, this will absolutely meet their demands. It's also cheaper than anything else like it out there, even undercutting the Ford Mustang Mach E.
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 10:18 am
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
7359 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:14 am to
I see myself getting a EV as a second vehicle sometime in the next three years, especially if we do get close to the sweet $25k price tag.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
45785 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:15 am to
EVs taking a hit right now.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
13393 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:15 am to
Ghey looking and if it helps the Emperor advance his agenda, no way.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:15 am to
No I take 2 minutes once a week to fill up at one of thousands of refueling stations
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103452 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:16 am to
Not a fan of the Volt, but I could easily see our next vehicle being electric.

Still going to have the one gas guzzler, though.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17333 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:16 am to
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EVs taking a hit right now.



Maybe they can offer a hand crank for manual charging in those states with an embarrassingly bad electric grid like Texas.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
63991 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:17 am to
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It can charge from 0 to full in about 8 hours at home, and go about 259 miles on a charge




No thanks. I assume charging it everyday would degrade the battery as well.


This vehicle is great for urbanites though.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21649 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:17 am to
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Sorry Texas. If you have this car (or the new Mustang Mach E, Tesla Model 3, or Cybertruck), you can't charge at home now because you guys don't know how to provide electricity in cold weather.



He’s not wrong.
Posted by lsutiger2010
Member since Aug 2008
14790 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:17 am to
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This post was edited on 10/17/21 at 10:06 pm
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17333 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:17 am to
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No I take 2 minutes once a week to fill up at one of thousands of refueling stations



Nah. Too much riff raff at those places.

Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
101246 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:18 am to
No, need much faster charging to 100% and longer range.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129070 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:18 am to
How much is a full charge gonna cost me in electricity?

People act like electric will save them money
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17333 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:19 am to
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No thanks. I assume charging it everyday would degrade the battery as well.


Eventually. The people who have Tesla and the previous generation Bolt are saying it loses 3% - 5% or so of its capacity after 100,000 miles.

Not bad really. Certainly better than my iPhone, which seems to lose a shite load of charging capacity after about a year.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:19 am to
It’s free. Just plug it into your wall.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37682 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:20 am to
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It can also use public rapid charging network for a much faster charge (100 miles of charge in 30 minutes).


And people thought the gas lines during the gas shortage were bad

Imagine a line 100 deep waiting for a 30 min charge a pop
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 10:23 am
Posted by bakersman
Shreveport
Member since Apr 2011
5984 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:22 am to
I wouldn’t make it a full day of work sometimes
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