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If Insurrection Act is invoked, just what are the ramifications?
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:57 pm
How will that affect our daily lives? What could/would be the outcome? What is the purpose of invoking it? What would have to happen for it to be lifted? Lots of questions...
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Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:57 pm to BFIV
My boss will still make me go to work.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:57 pm to BFIV
None because it won't be implemented. If Trump were to actually invoke it, he would be removed from office almost immediately.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:58 pm to BFIV
Don't waste your brain cells on this. Enough people already have.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:00 pm to cameronml
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Don't waste your brain cells on this.
I'm not. Had never heard of the Insurrection Act until it was mentioned in a thread here a few weeks ago. Just curious about the ramifications. Martial law? I kind of understand that, but the Insurrection Act? Lots of questions about it.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:03 pm to Chromdome35
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If Trump were to actually invoke it, he would be removed from office almost immediately.
Not if the people that could remove him were the target of the military because of being involved in the coup
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:06 pm to BFIV
People need to make sure they have food in the pantry, gas in the car, and cash on hand. If you live in a rural area you may not even notice too much of a disruption, but if I lived in a large city I would be leaving now.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:08 pm to Chromdome35
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If Trump were to actually invoke it, he would be removed from office almost immediately.
Exactly. Pence has his proverbial finger on the 25th amendment button waiting for Trump to be so foolish.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:08 pm to BoarEd
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People need to make sure they have food in the pantry,
So, deer season is unofficially extended a while longer...
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:11 pm to Froman
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Exactly. Pence has his proverbial finger on the 25th amendment button waiting for Trump to be so foolish.
If invoking it automatically triggers the 25th, why even have it in the first place?
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:19 pm to AlwysATgr
dont listen to froman, Simon Parkes says its on I believe him,
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:21 pm to BFIV
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The Insurrection Act of 1807 is a United States federal law that empowers the President of the United States to deploy U.S. military and federalized National Guard troops within the United States in particular circumstances, such as to suppress civil disorder, insurrection or rebellion.
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The act provides a "statutory exception" to the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which limits the use of military personnel under federal command for law enforcement purposes within the United States
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Before invoking the powers under the Act, 10 U.S.C. § 254 requires the President to first publish a proclamation ordering the insurgents to disperse.
There is no insurrection for the President to quell. If the attack upon the capital building had persisted last week, President Trump could have invoked it. It would not have applied nationally unless the insurgency spread beyond DC.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:23 pm to Bayoutigre
Not familiar with many of the players and who knows if it's signed or not, I was just asking a logical question:
If invoking the Insurrection Act automatically triggers removal via the 25th, why even have Insurrection Act?
If invoking the Insurrection Act automatically triggers removal via the 25th, why even have Insurrection Act?
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:23 pm to AlwysATgr
I think it only automatically triggers the 25th in the case of Trump in the last days of his presidency trying to cling to power.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:28 pm to Chromdome35
Well, this assumes his motives are illegitimate.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:29 pm to Kentucker
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There is no insurrection for the President to quell. If the attack upon the capital building had persisted last week, President Trump could have invoked it. It would not have applied nationally unless the insurgency spread beyond DC.
Trump has no legal cover here, nor does he really care about the law. The only question is whether he has sufficient sway over the “deep state” (I include the military in that) to make his auto-coup happen. I don’t think he does, and if he tries, he’ll just end up proving it.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:29 pm to AlwysATgr
I really don't think his motives matter at this point. If he invokes the Insurrection act for any reason, they will take him out.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:31 pm to AlwysATgr
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Not familiar with many of the players and who knows if it's signed or not, I was just asking a logical question: If invoking the Insurrection Act automatically triggers removal via the 25th, why even have Insurrection Act?
Your logic is correct, and it wouldn’t. I think the reasoning is that Pence is poised to invoke the 25th, and would do so if the President tried something crazy.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:32 pm to BoarEd
quote:my Lord the fear mongering
People need to make sure they have food in the pantry, gas in the car, and cash on hand. If you live in a rural area you may not even notice too much of a disruption, but if I lived in a large city I would be leaving now.
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