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re: Are you thinking of leaving Louisiana for good?
Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:58 am to Mr Perfect
Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:58 am to Mr Perfect
Laffy is a fine place to live and raise a family if you have a decent income. Some of the haters apparently never got off the interstate and think northside is all we are.
I am sick of the corruption and stupid people all around though.
I am sick of the corruption and stupid people all around though.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:00 am to fallguy_1978
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The problem is, I don't want to live in a larger market
this is generally my problem as well
I don't want to live in a larger market like Dallas or Houston, I like mid sized cities, but finding those that have a positive growth right now is hard, especially in the South, and then finding one that actually has job opportunities for myself is even more difficult
I envy people that can relocate easily
Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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it is very difficult to find a rational or logical answer to sell staying in LC
rebuilding a life in an area of prosperity is better than maintaining a decent life (for now) in a dying area
Louisiana is dying, and there isn't a good likelihood it can improve
Substitute LC for BR and our thoughts are identical. I couldn't get excited about moving back to BR. It just didn't make sense for me. Once I finally shut that idea down for good, a new world opened up for me and now I'm in Houston. I haven't found a new job here yet but I'm still working remotely out of Louisiana. The difference in job markets are light years apart.
Everything seemed like it was old and dying in LA, here is the exact opposite. Infrastructure, businesses, healthcare options, etc. Maybe this isn't true, perhaps I'm wrong, but I FEEL like I went from a rotting piece of fruit to a bright, vibrant, ripening piece of fruit.
It's changed my outlook on my future, for sure.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:03 am to fallguy_1978
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The problem is, I don't want to live in a larger market
i kind of want to give it a go
i know that, historically, i was anti-big city, but the problem is that my idea of a "large market" are shitholes like Nola, Houston, ATL, etc.
i'm saying that last part somewhat in jest
but seriously, my issues are with the future more than the present. with the educated youth leaving and the underclass growing, how do people think LA is going to get better over time? that's a serious question
we like to think of the LA lower class as hard-working grunts who do manual labor and get higher wages than other areas b/c of the oil market. there are 2 issues with this moving forward: (1) the population that is exploding is a subclass of lower class who won't do those jobs and (2) those jobs may be more rare or, at best, a lot more volatile than they already have been the past 40 years.
funding our Medicaid liabilities alone moving forward will require insane taxes
Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:05 am to dallastiger55
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This post was edited on 12/18/21 at 1:35 am
Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:09 am to dallastiger55
I’d leave tomorrow if my wife would. Eastern Tennessee, NW Georgia, East SC.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:10 am to Helo
quote:Eh, not really in Kentucky. Lived here my whole life. A rare occasional tornado out in Western KY where its flat is the worst thing I can recall ever happening here. All things considered re natural disasters, we are very fortunate. Honestly I often wonder why people choose to live in places where the things you mentioned happen with absurd frequency. I understand having roots there, and to each his own for sure, but I personally would have OPs attitude that eventually enough is enough. Hope y'all are staying safe down there.
Hell, IA and IL where hit by a land Hurricane (derecho) earlier in the year.
Every place has issues be it fires, floods, hurricanes, snow storms, earthqakes, drought, tornados, tsunamies, volcanos etc.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:11 am to DiamondDog
i've argued for LC on here for a while but i'm bearish on LC moving forward. Saudi Arabia fricked us (Lafayette, more)
Laura was pretty devastating, too, but i was bearish pre-Laura
Laura was pretty devastating, too, but i was bearish pre-Laura
Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:13 am to dallastiger55
We have good jobs and family is here for kids.
Broussard is in a bubble from all the political crap going on in our country.
More pros than cons to staying.
Obvy living near mountains would be cool
Broussard is in a bubble from all the political crap going on in our country.
More pros than cons to staying.
Obvy living near mountains would be cool
Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:14 am to dallastiger55
Yep, working on an exit strategy now due to crime and poor schools. I want to move while my kids are still young.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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with the educated youth leaving and the underclass growing, how do people think LA is going to get better over time? that's a serious question
In LA, I earn six figures, my kids attend public school, they dance, they do other extra-curricular activities. There are things to do each weekend. The weather is generally nice. Traffic isn't terrible.
If I wanted to maximize my salary, or maximize my house size, or maximize my 401K, or my kids were so insanely smart that they needed to take 7 AP classes a day, or i wanted to drive a 75K costing car, etc, of course I would leave Louisiana. I will always underearn in LA what I could earn in a larger market.
But, my kids would grow up without family close by. My ability to get cheap shrimp and crawfish would be eliminated. I've done the Katy to Galleria daily drive before, it blows monkey guts. I don't want to have to spend the money to pack up for a weekend and a 12 hour roundtrip drive to attend a neice birthday party. Etc.
It's all about what you place value on.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:15 am to dallastiger55
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hurricanes
I get the politicians part totally, and the crime part somewhat, but never understood the hurricanes argument. Where is there no weather/natural disaster events to deal with? I would rather 3-5 days of prep for a hurricane than a tornado or wild fire or snow storm.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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but seriously, my issues are with the future more than the present. with the educated youth leaving and the underclass growing, how do people think LA is going to get better over time? that's a serious question
Probably not. Louisiana's "brain drain" was a pretty big topic almost 25 years ago when I was at LSU.
There just aren't enough opportunities here to keep most of our college grads and sadly I haven't really seen that improve over my career.
The @Highland development in BR is a microcosm of what ails this place. They built this nice, new, class A office space in one of the nicer areas of the city. It was supposed to part of a larger development but the first building has sat largely empty for like 1.5 years. I'm sure Covid hasn't helped but they were having trouble finding tenants before all of this.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:20 am to dallastiger55
Left 15 years ago and it had nothing to do with hurricanes.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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ow are you going to deal with that, both political and just societally? how do you have a complete reversal of 30 years of trends, and why wouldn't that take 30 years itself to reverse?
it would probably take more time to fix b/c lots of the educated people who would offset our lower class population have left. we have steadily lost this population each year while the lower class population is exploding.
This. This entire post is excellent and sums up the RCA of the problems in Louisiana.
But yet, we can't talk about it.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:28 am to fallguy_1978
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There just aren't enough opportunities here to keep most of our college grads and sadly I haven't really seen that improve over my career.
see you even agree with me on the future prospects, just in a roundabout way
what is more likely, we get more or fewer of these opportunities over the next 20 years? fewer
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The @Highland development in BR is a microcosm of what ails this place. They built this nice, new, class A office space in one of the nicer areas of the city. It was supposed to part of a larger development but the first building has sat largely empty for like 1.5 years. I'm sure Covid hasn't helped but they were having trouble finding tenants before all of this.
likely charging premium prices for an area that doesn't have many premium clients. that's kind of what i'm getting at. why would you ever move a company to Baton Rouge to pay premium prices?
if LA wants to advance, it has to attract major companies to move here to provide jobs for the population you referenced. for 30 years, we've lost these companies, so what can we do to attract them? even the tax-friendly deals Jindal tried failed, and other areas are willing to do similar tax deals while offering more
hell, we couldn't attract good opportunities like car manufacturing b/c Ala-fricking-bama was seen as a superior options
Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:34 am to mattfromnj
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spending the same or not much less than someone who lives in NY or CA.
It may feel that way, but no way. Not even close. Cost of living in both of those states is much, much higher. Gas prices in CA would knock you off your rocker. We have friends visiting us taking pictures of the gas prices to text back to their friends. Then add on the state income taxes...those are two of the highest taxed states and climbing. And, if you choose to send your kids to private schools, it's almost twice the cost.
EVERY state has its issues and it's always greener on the other side. I've been away from LA for 30+ years and miss a lot about it. We do get back to visit and generally only see the "better parts" that bring back fond memories. I too left for opportunity and education for the kids and don't regret it, but don't convince yourself it's not challenging elsewhere.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 9:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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people who are saying you need to "stay and fix" LA. in the best scenario, your GRANDCHILDREN may see that bright future
so you're willingly sacrificing your children (possibly their children, too, if the best case doesn't happen), to "save" LA
think of it that way and you have to really evaluate why you're so invested in saving LA
None of this is more than your opinion. I don’t care how emphatic you state it, how many times you repeat it, it’s an opinion.
I’m not sure what you’re fishing for. I wish you well wherever you wind up, but don’t let the state line hit you in your arse on the way out.
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