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Boston fans, tell me about Tom Scholz
Posted on 8/7/20 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 8/7/20 at 7:56 pm
As a kid of the 70s, Boston is up there in the "it'll never be better than that" bands. But, I never knew much about the band.
Watching some Rick Beato videos, a comment under a video where he broke down a Boston song said something about Tom Scholz playing practically every instrument on the demo for their first album.
I decided to look into that, and, it's kind of hard to figure out. I mean, there was an actual group that made up Boston. Yet, the story seems to be that Tom was the creator, and brought in the musicians to play what he created.
I looked at the inside cover of Boston's debut album as I'd done years before, and suddenly, it took on a different meaning. When you look at the recording credits, Tom Scholz is credited with practically every instrument on the album.
Is it true that Tom Scholz created Boston's first album by himself, with the help of Brad Delp on vocals? If that's true, he should be much, MUCH more heralded and well-known in the genre of rock music. Holy crap, if that's true.
What do you guys know about this?
Watching some Rick Beato videos, a comment under a video where he broke down a Boston song said something about Tom Scholz playing practically every instrument on the demo for their first album.
I decided to look into that, and, it's kind of hard to figure out. I mean, there was an actual group that made up Boston. Yet, the story seems to be that Tom was the creator, and brought in the musicians to play what he created.
I looked at the inside cover of Boston's debut album as I'd done years before, and suddenly, it took on a different meaning. When you look at the recording credits, Tom Scholz is credited with practically every instrument on the album.
Is it true that Tom Scholz created Boston's first album by himself, with the help of Brad Delp on vocals? If that's true, he should be much, MUCH more heralded and well-known in the genre of rock music. Holy crap, if that's true.
What do you guys know about this?
Posted on 8/7/20 at 8:25 pm to LSUgusto
All you have to know about the first Boston record is that Tom did it all basically himself, and then the record company come back with more money and told him to redo it, he took their money, did nothing, the record co. released it as they originally received it, and those tracks are what we are referencing almost fifty years later.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 9:18 pm to Wrenchruh
That's unbelievable.
That album had some of the best guitar laydowns, some of the best Hammond organ solos, and boldest bass carries ever in rock-n-roll. All from one guy?
And every single voice was Brad? That makes more sense now, somehow.
Man, my childhood vision of Boston has changed. Scholz should be more well known for the masterpiece he put together.
That album had some of the best guitar laydowns, some of the best Hammond organ solos, and boldest bass carries ever in rock-n-roll. All from one guy?
And every single voice was Brad? That makes more sense now, somehow.
Man, my childhood vision of Boston has changed. Scholz should be more well known for the masterpiece he put together.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 9:25 pm to LSUgusto
Am I the only one that doesn't know a single person in Boston's actual name?
Posted on 8/7/20 at 9:38 pm to LSUgusto
quote:
Is it true that Tom Scholz created Boston's first album by himself, with the help of Brad Delp on vocals? If that's true, he should be much, MUCH more heralded and well-known in the genre of rock music. Holy crap, if that's true.
He wrote and produced played most of the instruments on the entire first album. Not only that, he invented the pedals and electronics to achieve the guitar sounds you hear. He went on to establish a successful pedal effects company. He is an MIT trained engineer.
Posted on 8/8/20 at 9:16 pm to LSUgusto
They were playin for a week in Hyannis, a man came to the stage one night. He smoked a big cigar and drove a Cadillac car and said "Boys I think this band's outta sight", so there must have been a band.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:48 am to DeltaTigerDelta
I challenge anyone to name another occasion where two bands from the same city put out debut albums within two years of each other and practically every song on both albums got boo-coo radio play. Boston and The Cars are the only time I can think of that it has ever happened.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:15 am to 88Wildcat
The Police/The Pretenders (London)
If you consider rap..
GnR/NWA (Los Angeles)
Nas/Biggie/Jay-Z (NYC)
Beastie Boys/Run-DMC
If you consider rap..
GnR/NWA (Los Angeles)
Nas/Biggie/Jay-Z (NYC)
Beastie Boys/Run-DMC
Posted on 8/9/20 at 1:43 pm to LSUgusto
Posted on 8/9/20 at 2:43 pm to LSUgusto
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What do you guys know about this?
The original demo of the eponymous album was almost 100% Tom Scholz on all instruments (there were bits and pieces from other collaborators on the demo, but didn't amount to much in the grand scheme of things).
The only thing that remains a mystery to me is the drums. Scholz can/has played physical drums, obviously, but he was also a genius with recording/mastering/dubbing, so I'm not certain if he recorded the drums at concert tempo, played them at half-speed or multi-tracked the fills, used programming for what he couldn't play or what have you.
As it is - pretty much the entire thing was "re"-recorded prior to release and don't sound very different at all from the demos, even the drums and keyboards (perceived to be Scholz's "weakest" instruments).
I don't know why he doesn't get more press along with the great multi-instrumentalists (McCartney, Winwood, Prince, John Paul Jones) - he's certainly as good a guitar player as any of those. Prince and Winwood would be unquestionably better on the keys, but we're really only talking a matter of a few degrees. But, then Prince relied mostly on drum programming and was not a true drummer in his own right. McCartney and Winwood probably a little more credible on drums than Prince. John Paul Jones wasn't really a drummer, but could play anything with strings, plus keys and some exotic instruments (bass recorder, anyone?).
All of those guys are great producers, too, so that is something most great multi-instrumentalists have in common.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 2:48 pm to TFTC
quote:
The Police/The Pretenders (London)
Yes. World kind of went off it´s axis there, for awhile.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 2:53 pm to 88Wildcat
quote:
I challenge anyone to name another occasion where two bands from the same city put out debut albums within two years of each other and practically every song on both albums got boo-coo radio play. Boston and The Cars are the only time I can think of that it has ever happened.
This is 1,000 % correct...........
Posted on 8/9/20 at 2:55 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:Thats some heavy shite man......
Ace Midnight
Posted on 8/9/20 at 3:06 pm to Ace Midnight
How would like to be able to say I was IN the studio for ANY RUSH song...........
Posted on 8/9/20 at 3:56 pm to dukke v
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How would like to be able to say I was IN the studio for ANY RUSH song...........
Seem like great guys, but frick Rush.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 5:16 pm to TFTC
quote:
The Police/The Pretenders (London)
Other than Brass in Pocket, Roxanne, and Can't Stand Losing You name any song on those albums that got regular radio air play.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 6:24 pm to 88Wildcat
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regular radio air play.
Not important. The product was important.
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