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re: The Top 10 Greatest Generals of All-Time - According to Mathematics

Posted on 8/8/20 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by Nobelium
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Posted on 8/8/20 at 3:21 pm to
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Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 8/8/20 at 3:42 pm to
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Grant sustained 9,135 men killed or wounded during the Vicksburg campaign while the Confederates suffered 5,291 combat casualties. Grant only "inflicted more casualties" if you factor in surrendered enemies.


Most attacking forces especially back then tended to take more casualties than forces in defensive positions.

Kind of a weak argument.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 8/8/20 at 4:15 pm to
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Grant sustained 9,135 men killed or wounded during the Vicksburg campaign while the Confederates suffered 5,291 combat casualties. Grant only "inflicted more casualties" if you factor in surrendered enemies.


That’s how a causality is defined by Francis Kennedy (and in general), as the Confederate forces were paroled on the condition that they could not take up arms against the Union again, denying the Confederacy of men. Surrounding Vicksburg, and forcing the surrender of an army of 30,000 men is no easy feat, and I don’t know why you would underrate it.
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Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 1:09 pm to
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Grant sustained 9,135 men killed or wounded during the Vicksburg campaign while the Confederates suffered 5,291 combat casualties. Grant only "inflicted more casualties" if you factor in surrendered enemies.


"Captured" has always been included in casualty counts, genius. He took an entire army off of the Confederate order of battle. 30,000 men the Confederacy would never be able to use again at a time when their lack of manpower was beginning to show in the conflict.

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