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re: The demise of Harley Davidson
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:19 pm to TejasHorn
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:19 pm to TejasHorn
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The demise of Harley Davidson by TejasHorn
Harley could survive if they would diversify and make different kinds of bikes. 99% of their bikes are too heavy, underpowered, handle like sh!t, and cost 2-3 times what they should. If you look at any Japanese brand, they offer kids bikes, low displacement learner bikes, sportbikes, touring bikes, adventure bikes, retro bikes, motocross bikes, enduro bikes, supermoto bikes ect…Enough choices for young, teen, adult and older riders. Then you have the HD lineup, all overpriced heavy rolling chrome butt jewelry that some mid life crisis guy will blow his 401k wad in order to try to look cool enough to get one last piece of a$$ before his tallywacker quits working. A lot of them are killed because they can't ride, have never ridden, and should have no business on a motorcycle. Now Harley has invested big$$ on an electric bike that goes for 30K. Good luck with selling that to your "niche" of middle age guys wanting to dress like a gay pirate and putt from bar to bar looking like billybadass.
How about making a good bike that is affordable? I guess they will stick with selling tshirts and tassles.
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:20 pm to Robin Masters
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They made their brand synonymous with aging boomers. Aging boomers are not cool.
Part of me says "Woodstock > Fyre Festival and Selma > Kony 2012," but I also know that Boomers have ruined Mustangs for me.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:21 pm to Master of Sinanju
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Harleys are too expensive for young people. That's why most people who ride them seem to be retirees.
Same with Corvettes. You rarely see some 30 year old driving a Vette. Its usually a 60 year old with his hair grown out in the back and a satin jacket on.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:23 pm to randybobandy
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Then you have the HD lineup, all overpriced heavy rolling chrome butt jewelry that some mid life crisis guy will blow his 401k wad in order to try to look cool enough to get one last piece of a$$ before his tallywacker quits working. A lot of them are killed because they can't ride, have never ridden, and should have no business on a motorcycle. Now Harley has invested big$$ on an electric bike that goes for 30K. Good luck with selling that to your "niche" of middle age guys wanting to dress like a gay pirate and putt from bar to bar looking like billybadass.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:40 pm to East Coast Band
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Because most millennials admire "guys" that look like this
No. We don’t.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:43 pm to TejasHorn
HOG is up today and has bounced back 25-30% from its bottom.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:43 pm to Colonel Angus
quote:have you seen the price of an entry level Vette......a typical 30yo isn't wasting that much money on a vette.
You rarely see some 30 year old driving a Vette. Its usually a 60 year old with his hair grown out in the
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:44 pm to TejasHorn
Like some have said, hardly anyone can relate to the old Hell’s Angels, “I’m a bad arse on a Harley” image. They need to appeal to the modern crowd.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:50 pm to colorchangintiger
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clad in leather
I know a lot of you younger riders look down on leather (for some odd reason) but trust me, if and when you lay that bike down on asphalt and you go sliding a hundred feet down the pavement, that leather will be your best friend.
When you ride you need leather boots, chaps or leather pants, leather jacket, and leather gloves.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:50 pm to Cdawg
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Triumph bonneville
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:54 pm to Darth_Vader
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When you ride you need leather boots, chaps or leather pants, leather jacket, and leather gloves.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:56 pm to randybobandy
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Harley could survive if they would diversify
Nailed it!
How about dirt bikes or motorcross bikes? Products an entire family could use.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:56 pm to Darth_Vader
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I know a lot of you younger riders look down on leather (for some odd reason) but trust me, if and when you lay that bike down on asphalt and you go sliding a hundred feet down the pavement, that leather will be your best friend.
I meant black leather. I ride ATGATT. The textile riding gear is just as good and in some cases better than leather.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 12:57 pm to CarRamrod
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typical 30yo isn't wasting that much money on a better.
A better WHAT? Dang, you're dumb.
No offense.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 1:00 pm to Darth_Vader
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When you ride you need leather boots, chaps or leather pants, leather jacket, and leather gloves.
Things bottoms in BDSM relationships say.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 1:03 pm to DeafJam73
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They need to appeal to the modern crowd.
Ohhh, the Harley-Davidson Futon line that goes in Mommie's basement?
Posted on 5/20/20 at 1:06 pm to randybobandy
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If you look at any Japanese brand, they offer kids bikes, low displacement learner bikes, sportbikes, touring bikes, adventure bikes, retro bikes, motocross bikes, enduro bikes, supermoto bikes ect…Enough choices for young, teen, adult and older riders
That is something HD overlooked and is paying for it.
Back in the 70s and 80s Honda captured numerous future buyers of accords by offering the Civic, a simple and reliable car that later led those owners to stepping up to the Accords and even their Acura line. The US manufacturers treated cars like that with disdain either offering trash models or buying Japanese models and rebadging them.
If Harley Davidson wants to thrive then they have to have something for a new rider to learn on. They need a model that some one going to college or trade school can get around on with a budget. Given HD still has their nose stuck up in the air, I don't see that changing right now.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 1:11 pm to TejasHorn
If I'm gonna kill myself, I'd rather do it with a jetpack.
Posted on 5/20/20 at 1:19 pm to TejasHorn
I worked for HD for 10 years
Buy a boat
Buy a boat
Posted on 5/20/20 at 1:26 pm to LCA131
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Ohhh, the Harley-Davidson Futon line that goes in Mommie's basement?
lol. because there are no 20 & 30 something professionals.
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