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re: 'Birds of Prey' bombs at the box office — and feminists are blaming sexism
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:38 am to WPBTiger
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:38 am to WPBTiger
The Critical Drinker says it's a shite movie, and based off of his review, I'm inclined to believe it.
It sounds like another unwieldy mess of a team-up. Poor character development sans Black Canary, shite acting done by the girl playing Cassandra Cain (and WTF did they did to that character anyway? It's Cassandra in name only. frick you DC), five different plot threads going at once, and nonsense action sequences.
DC doesn't understand ensemble cast superhero movies. At all. They fricking suck at it.
Make a good movie and people will go see a female led superhero film.
Maybe take some pointers from Emily Blunt's character in Edge of Tomorrow too.
It sounds like another unwieldy mess of a team-up. Poor character development sans Black Canary, shite acting done by the girl playing Cassandra Cain (and WTF did they did to that character anyway? It's Cassandra in name only. frick you DC), five different plot threads going at once, and nonsense action sequences.
DC doesn't understand ensemble cast superhero movies. At all. They fricking suck at it.
Make a good movie and people will go see a female led superhero film.
Maybe take some pointers from Emily Blunt's character in Edge of Tomorrow too.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 9:39 am
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:40 am to WPBTiger
gee 4 butt ugly assed lesbians and a psyco "sorta" hot chick in a SJW empowering women movie bombed, who could have seen that coming
sounds as bad as female ghost busters movie
i was going to watch it if it had some T/A in it but not after seeing her costars
sounds as bad as female ghost busters movie
i was going to watch it if it had some T/A in it but not after seeing her costars
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:41 am to WPBTiger
Here we go.
The movie is horribly packaged to a general audience not in the know.
We knew this was going to happen...sexists, sexists everywhere.
The movie is horribly packaged to a general audience not in the know.
We knew this was going to happen...sexists, sexists everywhere.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:44 am to WPBTiger
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. Ticket buyers were mostly older males — 54% were men and 65% were over the age of 25 — according to PostTrack surveys.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:59 am to WPBTiger
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Others say the unwieldy title of "Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn)" might be partially to blame.
It is. I dont know why they did that. I mean i'm not saying it was a big part of the tanking but it's similar to The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. That was a fantastic movie that made the mistake of a kind of cool but incredibly stupid name. You're turning off quite a few people that just walk up to a ticket counter wanting to watch something or havent seen any marketing and they see that dumb title and go see something else.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 10:28 am to WPBTiger
it's so funny that all of our cultural battlegrounds are comic book movies and fast food joints (chikfila vs popeyes)
what a dumb country lol
what a dumb country lol
Posted on 2/11/20 at 10:54 am to WPBTiger
I haven't seen the movie but based on the image in the OP, I can see why it bombed.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:40 am to WPBTiger
Marketing was TERRIBLE barely saw anything for it, and what I did see didn’t look great, add in the HORRIBLE title... it’s no wonder people didn’t go see it. Wtf is birds of prey? Just call it the Harley Quinn movie and then people might have an idea of what it’s about.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:46 am to WPBTiger
What the article said...
What I read...
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Actor Ewan McGregor explicitly described the movie as a feminist themed attack on misogyny in an interview from October 2019.
What I read...
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We took a genre originally and generally appealing primarily to males, made a movie in that genre but instead of focusing on the genre's demo we decided to go in the exact opposite direction so we instead made a feminist's wet dream then were astonished that it bombed.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:33 pm to WPBTiger
I mean in fairness, half you guys's reasons in the other thread for not wanting to see it were hella sexist.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:59 pm to WPBTiger
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Margot Robbie didn't want Harley Quinn to be sexualized as she was in Suicide Squad
Sex appeal is the only reason Harley Quinn is a thing or was ever a thing.
And Margot Robbie is also only a thing because of sex appeal. Until Wolf of Wall Street she was a C list nobody.
This is what happens when you start trying to make social statements and instead of trying to make money.
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the movie was just a marketing failure
Had the trailers included Robbie dancing around in her underwear and stroking guns, and making our with her "birds" (cast with much hotter chicks) what do you think the box office this weekend would have been?
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:29 pm to WPBTiger
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The latest entry in the DC Universe of superhero movies bombed badly at the box office, and feminist critics are blaming the misogyny and sexism of the male audience.
Then why did Wonder Woman do well?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:31 pm to WPBTiger
quote:If they would stop doing this, people would stop fighting against these movies.
Actor Ewan McGregor explicitly described the movie as a feminist themed attack on misogyny in an interview from October 2019.
Just say it is a fun movie.
A large portion of society rejects movies billed as a “feminist themed attack on misogyny”.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:38 pm to WPBTiger
How about the fact that you pretty much strayed from the source material and tried to reinvent the wheel with a SJW agenda.
IMO when it comes to adaptions of Comic's or SiFi you have to do fan service to the people who made the material popular enough for it to made in a live action movie.
When you drastically change the characters trying to please the masses you will bomb every time. Please the core and they will drive the masses to the theater.
IMO when it comes to adaptions of Comic's or SiFi you have to do fan service to the people who made the material popular enough for it to made in a live action movie.
When you drastically change the characters trying to please the masses you will bomb every time. Please the core and they will drive the masses to the theater.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 2:27 pm to WPBTiger
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Get woke, go broke.
Hollywood just doesn't get it. Every story worth telling, has already been told. Multiple times. Throwing some garbage out there because, muh wimmenz, muh gay, muh tranny, muh minority, doesn't change the fact that people know that story has already been made. But if you liked the original better, then youre some kind of ' ist
The proof is seen in all the reboots/sequels that Hollywood keeps doing in order to sell tickets. There are simply no new stories that people are willing to spend crazy money, on just because you take out the white men from the original.
The Top 20 all-time box office movies are from when Hollywood first starting putting stories on film
Gone with the Wind
Start Wars
ET
Sound of Music
Snow White
10 Commandments
Jaws
Ben Hur
Dr Zhivago
Having an all woman Magnificent 7, or an all Hispanic Titanic, or an all gay Mary Poppins just isn't going to sell tickets. Sorry
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:01 pm to WPBTiger
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'Birds of Prey' bombs at the box office — and feminists are blaming sexism
No... It bombed because it was poorly marketed. I'd love to know how much they spent on marketing this movie. I saw one trailer for it, and that was because it was posted on here and shared on Twitter. I had no idea it came out last week until I randomly looked on Fandango and saw movie times listed. I'll go check it out, but it didn't bomb because of why they think it did.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:25 pm to WPBTiger
yeah, i'd be afraid of them in a fight.
fricking Hollywood is such garbage
fricking Hollywood is such garbage
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:39 pm to WPBTiger
The trailers didn't do it any favors. They were very... unappealing.
I didn't chose to not see it because I'm against female led movies. I chose not to see it because I didn't feel compelled to after seeing the trailers.
It might be a good movie, it might not be.
That said, there are enough adult women in the US that if a movie pulled them in, it'd be successful without a large percentage of men seeing it. If you had a date who wanted to see it, you'd probably go - I mean, hell, I went on a date and she wanted to see Twilight. Guys will put up with way worse than Birds of Prey if someone they like wants to see it.
I didn't chose to not see it because I'm against female led movies. I chose not to see it because I didn't feel compelled to after seeing the trailers.
It might be a good movie, it might not be.
That said, there are enough adult women in the US that if a movie pulled them in, it'd be successful without a large percentage of men seeing it. If you had a date who wanted to see it, you'd probably go - I mean, hell, I went on a date and she wanted to see Twilight. Guys will put up with way worse than Birds of Prey if someone they like wants to see it.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:30 pm to WPBTiger
The movie was never marketed as some feminist epic. Other than the word "emancipation", the trailers and commercials were about Harley leaving Joker and joining women who had a common threat.
Everyone lost their shite because McGregor (who only did the movie to be near his young girlfriend) decided to show off in an interview by making the movie seem more important than it is. The writer didn't write it that way. The director didn't direct it that way. The movie didn't end up that way. But McGregor had a grander SJW vision than the film's creators.
Was the movie marketed badly, named badly, and created for the wrong rating? Yes.
Is it an anti-male feminist manifesto worthy of either side getting upset over? No.
SPOILERS:
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Seriously: SPOILERS
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How are the female characters mistreated by men?
-Harley breaks up with Joker. Once people find out she's no longer under Joker's protection, she's open game for everyone she's mistreated in the past.
-Montoya is shite on by all of the cops in her precinct. They laugh at her for being a professional cop. Her sex isn't mentioned, but it's obvious that it's part of it.
-Black Canary gets a promotion based on her talents. No mistreatment.
-Huntress is orphaned by bad men, saved by a good man, and raised by good men.
-Cassandra is a pickpocket who picks the wrong pocket. No mistreatment.
ETA: There's also a scene where a guy tries to take advantage of a drunk Harley and Canary kicks his arse. That's about the only "sex" in the entire thing.
END SPOILERS:
*******************
Is every man in this film bad? No. But the entire film is about villains VS villains. Like 90% of movies, the villains are male bad guys.
I can understand not wanting to see it based on the marketing, but avoiding it because of one interview out of a hundred or because it has women battling male bad guys is lame.
Everyone lost their shite because McGregor (who only did the movie to be near his young girlfriend) decided to show off in an interview by making the movie seem more important than it is. The writer didn't write it that way. The director didn't direct it that way. The movie didn't end up that way. But McGregor had a grander SJW vision than the film's creators.
Was the movie marketed badly, named badly, and created for the wrong rating? Yes.
Is it an anti-male feminist manifesto worthy of either side getting upset over? No.
SPOILERS:
*******************
Seriously: SPOILERS
**********************
How are the female characters mistreated by men?
-Harley breaks up with Joker. Once people find out she's no longer under Joker's protection, she's open game for everyone she's mistreated in the past.
-Montoya is shite on by all of the cops in her precinct. They laugh at her for being a professional cop. Her sex isn't mentioned, but it's obvious that it's part of it.
-Black Canary gets a promotion based on her talents. No mistreatment.
-Huntress is orphaned by bad men, saved by a good man, and raised by good men.
-Cassandra is a pickpocket who picks the wrong pocket. No mistreatment.
ETA: There's also a scene where a guy tries to take advantage of a drunk Harley and Canary kicks his arse. That's about the only "sex" in the entire thing.
END SPOILERS:
*******************
Is every man in this film bad? No. But the entire film is about villains VS villains. Like 90% of movies, the villains are male bad guys.
I can understand not wanting to see it based on the marketing, but avoiding it because of one interview out of a hundred or because it has women battling male bad guys is lame.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:47 pm to WPBTiger
Maybe since Jussie Smollett's sister is in the movie. She can set up an arse whipping to garner the movie some attention. Since they are blaming the movies failure on men, and their dicks. Mind as well throw a racial arse beating in there to top it off.
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