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re: LSU Basketball AP ranking prediction

Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:46 am to
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
19093 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:46 am to
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All while #14 in the RPI.



Yep WW knows how to work the system, but unfortunately it doesnt count for anything anymore.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:46 am to
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rankings mean absolutely nothing especially at this point


Rankings bring major exposure to your program. If you’re in the top 25 you get a highlight and your score mentioned on every halftime and postgame show. If you aren’t ranked, you’re pretty much forgotten about.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
29576 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:53 am to
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Our net last week was 24, we won 2 games and now our net is 25, lol.


1. Liberty lost twice. Which caused them to tank in the NET rankings. That was our "biggest" win...until they lost

2. NET also takes into account margin of victory and offensive/defensive efficiency ratings (ex. Kenpom). Having several 2-4 point wins (even over bad teams such as A&M and Ole Miss) doesn't help. Plus, LSU's Kenpom ranking has been dropping like a rock during the winning streak because their defensive efficiency rating went from already below average to bad (relative to other power conf. contenders). That's not to say LSU can't improve in the NET rankings. But when you get closer to the top everyone is good and you start splitting hairs in the rankings because it's not often those teams ahead of you are losing. When LSU is scraping by every opponent (regardless of quality) and the teams ahead of them aren't losing, it's hard to move up.

As far as the human polls are concerned, I expect LSU to be ranked 24th or 25th. First, not many teams ahead of them lost last week (excluding Memphis). Second, the big win over Florida was somewhat mitigated by their blowout loss, at home, to Baylor. Still, the human polls are just an irrelevant beauty contest as they have no importance whatsoever.
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
9186 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:53 am to
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Liberty lost twice.



Yea, thanks turds
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
19778 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:54 am to
Early voters are showing 22-23 area.

Booooooooooooooooooooo
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
1967 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:57 am to
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rankings mean absolutely nothing especially at this point


There always has to be that guy.
Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
6951 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:58 am to
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
33016 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:03 am to
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Rankings bring major exposure to your program. If you’re in the top 25 you get a highlight and your score mentioned on every halftime and postgame show. If you aren’t ranked, you’re pretty much forgotten about.



This. Even in the sec big 12 challenge games we didn’t get any clips shown at halftime because they go through the top 25 and that’s it essentially
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
7010 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:32 am to
Probably around #22. Andy Katz has us at #10 in his rankings fwiw
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:39 am to
Field is weaker this year. So even though last years team was more talented, we may make it further this year.

Especially with having wade on the sideline.
Posted by Rb52224
Member since Dec 2019
424 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:41 am to
I saw 2 AP voter ballot and neither of them had LSU in the top 25
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
33016 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:44 am to
Seth davis left us off his
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
29576 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:15 am to
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Field is weaker this year. So even though last years team was more talented, we may make it further this year.

Especially with having wade on the sideline.


As with just about any year, it really depends on the matchups. I don't love this team vs. a group that has enough size to mitigate LSU's offensive rebounding prowess (see Miss State) or can pressure the ball and force turnovers. LSU's defense, while somewhat better vs. Texas, still probably isn't good enough to keep opponents from scoring efficiently. It would be a matter of if LSU can just simply outpace and opponent with their own scoring ability. Very few teams this year have been able to prevent LSU from scoring...as long as LSU values the basketball and doesn't turn it over.

Texas got back into the game by pressuring and forcing TO's. And despite good offensive nights, Ole Miss and A&M stayed in the game by forcing LSU to turn it over. For as good as they are offensively, this team seems to have a knack for committing a terrible turnover just at the time they look like they might start to put an opponent away. Then they combine that with not being able to string together several stops (defensively) in a row...leading to a blown lead and a nerve-racking finish.

All that said, no one is probably going to be happy to see LSU pop up as their opponent (assuming LSU reaches the NCAAT). Because despite their moments of absolutely frustrating play, they still have 5 starters, anyone of whom could have a huge scoring night. Very few teams have that. Kind of like the football offense, there's no one guy in LSU's starting 5 you can focus your efforts on. You shut down one, only to find there are 4 others who can easily put up 20+
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:30 pm to
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why wouldn’t we be?
+1

I was at the game (and at the Royal Rumble the next day—what a great weekend), and the team I saw at the Erwin Center is a legit top 25 team. I’m glad to see that you get that impression, too, despite not being able to afford to go to the game.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:56 pm to
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I’m glad to see that you get that impression, too, despite not being able to afford to go to the game.




I’ve missed maybe 20 home games total since 2003
Posted by HarrisonTown
Member since Nov 2019
517 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:13 pm to
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rankings mean absolutely nothing especially at this point


Ranked puts butts in the seats at the PMAC hate to say.
Them kids on the court feed off that crowd.
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