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re: Auschwitz survivors to return after 75 years for memorial ceremony
Posted on 1/29/20 at 12:00 am to MightyYat
Posted on 1/29/20 at 12:00 am to MightyYat
I mean, I have no idea the actual numbers but
6M down to 1M would be a pretty big drop. Seems like that’d be a good thing. Not sure why that reduction pisses you off.
Do you get so emotional when discussing the Armenian genocide at the hands of the Turks? Or Stalin’s mass killings? Or the slaughter in Rwanda not long ago? I bet we could have threads on those genocides and you would not get your panties in a wad.
6M down to 1M would be a pretty big drop. Seems like that’d be a good thing. Not sure why that reduction pisses you off.
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To remind the class, those numbers are people being executed for merely being born a Jew.
Do you get so emotional when discussing the Armenian genocide at the hands of the Turks? Or Stalin’s mass killings? Or the slaughter in Rwanda not long ago? I bet we could have threads on those genocides and you would not get your panties in a wad.
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 12:19 am to biglego
Are we going to have posters claiming that all of those were made up stories in the name of creating a world police and making money also?
Posted on 1/29/20 at 12:58 am to cubsfan5150
I’m sure people might question the numbers of any genocide. I’m sure you wouldn’t cry about any of it except the Holocaust.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:06 am to biglego
Why go through all this to argue a number? We may not be positive the exact number but Nazis still rounded up a ton of people because of their race and religion and murdered the. How does trying to argue the numbers were lower make that any better?
And what fricking reason do you think people have for intentionally skewing the numbers?
And what fricking reason do you think people have for intentionally skewing the numbers?
Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:27 am to cubsfan5150
Many have been proven false by their own admittance. Many have admitted to making up Holocaust stories, just look it up.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:04 am to FLObserver
Yes and I also know that Anne Frank's own sister said that many photos of Auschwitz were fake.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:53 am to Placebeaux
A Holocaust denier.
This website really does have it all.
This website really does have it all.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:58 am to Placebeaux
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Placebeaux
Hi Ilhan.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:59 am to Bestbank Tiger
Not a nazi baw
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:05 am to zatetic
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Just stop. There was never any genocide by the Germans.
The facts are almost all death camp numbers have been revised to nothing that isn't easily explained by the fact Germany was being bombed to oblivion and transport to the camps was made impossible by the allies. The only "death camp" still being officially used is Auschwitz. The official number at the end of the war was 4,000,000 million dead jews. Now it is officially between 900,000 and 1,000,000 dead jews at Auschwitz. Just like that we brought 5,000,000 jews back to life. There will be people say yeah but they were killing jews out in the fields. The Germans stopped the local populaces from killing "bolsheviks" as revenge even though they had been genociding people since they started the soviet union.
The only reason this lie still gets spouted is because in most of Europe it is illegal and you will go to jail for saying six million jews didn't die even though the official numbers do not add up anywhere close to it.
The fact that this is getting upvotes is scary.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:10 am to Placebeaux
Holocaust denial is commonly associated with certain racist propaganda, it is considered a serious societal problem in many places where it occurs and is illegal in several European countries and Israel. Holocaust denial is supported by some Middle Eastern governments, including Iran and Syria.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:28 am to ksayetiger
Yes people and governments that support legislation that limits free speech have shown their fascist roots. What better way of concealing the truth by making it illegal to even question history. Just think about that.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:38 am to FLObserver
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Dude you do understand there is documented evidence such as films when the americans and russians liberated these camps.
The only death camps were liberated by Russian troops.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:43 am to Placebeaux
Since straight up arguing with you gets both of us nowhere, let me put it to you in a historical perspective. It seems like your biggest argument here is that some of the stories, pictures, and numbers are wrong.
You seem like a history person, so compare it to the events of a guy like Alexander the great. Most of the battle numbers are conjecture or completely made up, pretty much all of the accounts of his life we have from people who were either on his side, or paid to write about him. As he was destroying the Persian empire he was also destroying most of their records of him and of the Greeks, so because of that all of our accounts of the Persian wars pretty much also come from the Greeks and are full of bias and miss information. There are tons of historical quotes that are taught in schools as fact, that Herodotus just fully made up to try and tell a better story, because the people he was writing about died either during the event or soon after it and no written account of what they actually said or did exist.
It’s the same idea for a lot of the Holocaust, many of the people who experienced it or participated in it died during or soon after and never wrote anything down or kept any records, so we have no way of knowing exactly how or why or what they did. But that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen just because we don’t have detailed records of it, or parts of it may have been guessed at instead of confirmed with evidence that doesn’t exist.
One major difference between the holocaust and events of the life of Alexander the great, is we in fact do you millions of records from people who were there, and did experience it, not to mention all of the survivors who have talked about it, written about it, and discussed it at length. Many of the stories that are told, and the statistics that they give our backed up by historical fact and confirmed 100%. So I’m not sure what exactly you are grasping at? Because it’s possible that some of it isn’t confirmed fact, and at some of the stories may have been embellished overtime or pictures maybe miss identified then you want to try to say the whole thing was fake? Or the whole thing wasn’t as bad as people make it out to be?
Again, you seem like someone who likes history and likes to be informed, but in this case you are pulling out information that you think validates your argument, when in fact you are being intentionally obtuse because you’ve already decided that you believe one way and only want to see evidence, or lack there of, that supports your viewpoint Again, you seem like someone who likes history and likes to be informed, but in this case you are pulling out information that you think validates your argument, when in fact you are being intentionally obtuse because you’ve already decided that you believe one way and only want to see evidence, or lack there of, that supports your viewpoint.
The Holocaust happened, it was horrible, millions of people died, and most of them for no reason other than their race, religion, or status in society. A few people embellishing stories or misremembering facts doesn’t prove anything, it just proves that they were people and they went through a traumatic event
You seem like a history person, so compare it to the events of a guy like Alexander the great. Most of the battle numbers are conjecture or completely made up, pretty much all of the accounts of his life we have from people who were either on his side, or paid to write about him. As he was destroying the Persian empire he was also destroying most of their records of him and of the Greeks, so because of that all of our accounts of the Persian wars pretty much also come from the Greeks and are full of bias and miss information. There are tons of historical quotes that are taught in schools as fact, that Herodotus just fully made up to try and tell a better story, because the people he was writing about died either during the event or soon after it and no written account of what they actually said or did exist.
It’s the same idea for a lot of the Holocaust, many of the people who experienced it or participated in it died during or soon after and never wrote anything down or kept any records, so we have no way of knowing exactly how or why or what they did. But that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen just because we don’t have detailed records of it, or parts of it may have been guessed at instead of confirmed with evidence that doesn’t exist.
One major difference between the holocaust and events of the life of Alexander the great, is we in fact do you millions of records from people who were there, and did experience it, not to mention all of the survivors who have talked about it, written about it, and discussed it at length. Many of the stories that are told, and the statistics that they give our backed up by historical fact and confirmed 100%. So I’m not sure what exactly you are grasping at? Because it’s possible that some of it isn’t confirmed fact, and at some of the stories may have been embellished overtime or pictures maybe miss identified then you want to try to say the whole thing was fake? Or the whole thing wasn’t as bad as people make it out to be?
Again, you seem like someone who likes history and likes to be informed, but in this case you are pulling out information that you think validates your argument, when in fact you are being intentionally obtuse because you’ve already decided that you believe one way and only want to see evidence, or lack there of, that supports your viewpoint Again, you seem like someone who likes history and likes to be informed, but in this case you are pulling out information that you think validates your argument, when in fact you are being intentionally obtuse because you’ve already decided that you believe one way and only want to see evidence, or lack there of, that supports your viewpoint.
The Holocaust happened, it was horrible, millions of people died, and most of them for no reason other than their race, religion, or status in society. A few people embellishing stories or misremembering facts doesn’t prove anything, it just proves that they were people and they went through a traumatic event
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:43 am to biglego
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I mean, I have no idea the actual numbers but
6M down to 1M would be a pretty big drop. Seems like that’d be a good thing. Not sure why that reduction pisses you off.
Do you get so emotional when discussing the Armenian genocide at the hands of the Turks? Or Stalin’s mass killings? Or the slaughter in Rwanda not long ago? I bet we could have threads on those genocides and you would not get your panties in a wad.
“Pissed off” , “panties in a wad” ..... wtf are you talking about? No one is upset over people thinking the Holocaust was embellished. I’m just saying it’s a weird thing to try to set the record on. Nothing more nothing less.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:48 am to Tiger1242
Boy did you waste your time
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:54 am to GetCocky11
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Angela Orosz, 75, from Montreal, stood in front of former red-brick barracks and recalled her mother’s account of giving birth to her in secret on a top bunk in Auschwitz-Birkenau in December 1944. "Because my mother had probably survived because of the peelings she had eaten and the goodness in them, she had been able to give birth to me and so I had survived, so of course the survival instinct I inherited from her made me always do the same.”
I’m surprised this story hasn’t been put in a book or movie. That’s absolutely incredible.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:58 am to Placebeaux
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Boy did you waste your time
Sigh, I know,
There is no point in trying to have a rational discussion with somebody who denies the Holocaust, it was a big waste of my time
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:01 am to Tiger1242
All you said was my facts are legit and yours aren't because that's the way it is.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:09 am to dewster
Wasn't there a group (and maybe even Iran) claiming the holocaust never happened?
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