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re: 2020 Garden Thread
Posted on 2/9/20 at 3:05 pm to FowlGuy
Posted on 2/9/20 at 3:05 pm to FowlGuy
I really like that greenhouse - great job. Looks to be very functional.
Tell us more when you have time? Dimensions - L x W x H. Those standard clear plastic panels, like one might purchase at a big box stores? Where you get the grating for the inside table tops?
Tell us more when you have time? Dimensions - L x W x H. Those standard clear plastic panels, like one might purchase at a big box stores? Where you get the grating for the inside table tops?
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:45 am to FowlGuy
Wow! Great setup! Suntuf poly roofing?
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:40 am to FowlGuy
That things great. I’m looking to build one this summer as well.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:32 am to FowlGuy
whats the difference between a green house and a raised outdoor bed?
Can you taste a difference in the vegetables? easier to grow?
Can you taste a difference in the vegetables? easier to grow?
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:55 am to CP3LSU25
A greenhouse allows you to start seedlings in it early. Inside that green house, if it’s say 38 degrees outside with a wind chill of 30 and there’s no cloud cover it’s probably 70+ inside the greenhouse. Most veggie seeds need to be around 60-80 degrees to germinate that’s why people start seeds “indoors” with grow lights. Well if you use grow lights and don’t do it appropriately, all your plants get leggy (real long and weak) and you basically wasted your seed, time, and effort. I became tired of growing plants in my house, in my garage, or in my sheds. Ran out of room, got tires of water getting every where. My greenhouse is right by my garden so I have a water hose that I just bring into the green house and just water everything, that’s why I have the table tops that are plastic so the water runs through it. Raised beds are not covered. If you wanted to you could grow plants in the green house but it would take up a lot of room, plus I would need a vent and possibly a fan to be able to control the temperature. I’m looking mainly for heat and sunlight so I don’t worry about that. As soon as I can I will provide a description of the greenhouse and the websites I purchased the material from
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:58 am to CP3LSU25
This is a small raised bed I have of garlic I planted back in October
Posted on 2/10/20 at 12:15 pm to convertedtiger
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Wow! Great setup! Suntuf poly roofing?
Yes. Very easy to work with.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:24 am to FowlGuy
Any suggestions on size of raised bed and what to plant?
Would like to get into this hobby as something me and my daughter could do together but I don’t have much gardening experience and don’t really have much room for a big garden where I’m currently located.
Would like to get into this hobby as something me and my daughter could do together but I don’t have much gardening experience and don’t really have much room for a big garden where I’m currently located.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:59 am to geauxcats10
For height, I would go a minimum of 12". But 18-24" will give plants more room for the roots to really thrive and spread. Plus you don't have to bend down as far.
No more than 4 feet wide. Any wider and you could have issues accessing plants.
Length, that's a personal preference. So are plant types. Tomatoes and peppers are pretty easy and don't take up much room. Bush type cucumbers and beans are also options, unless you plan on building a trellis for vining types to grow on.
Look up square foot gardening. That may be something of interest to you. If you have more specific questions, someone here would be happy to help. I'd guess bluemoons is more of a raised bed expert than me, so I'm sure he'll have some solid info to contribute when he sees this.
No more than 4 feet wide. Any wider and you could have issues accessing plants.
Length, that's a personal preference. So are plant types. Tomatoes and peppers are pretty easy and don't take up much room. Bush type cucumbers and beans are also options, unless you plan on building a trellis for vining types to grow on.
Look up square foot gardening. That may be something of interest to you. If you have more specific questions, someone here would be happy to help. I'd guess bluemoons is more of a raised bed expert than me, so I'm sure he'll have some solid info to contribute when he sees this.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 10:01 am
Posted on 2/11/20 at 10:09 am to geauxcats10
Definitely no expert, but I grow in an L-shaped raised bed. Mine is 12x4' on the main section, and 6x4' on the L-shape. The sides are 12" tall and I used a mix of 1/3 peat moss, 1/3 compost, and 1/3 vermiculite to fill the beds. The mix was a bit expensive, but my soil is awful and there isn't much locally that I can buy in bulk.
I plant tomatoes, peppers, squash, zucchini, and okra in the main bed. I also have an 8'x12"x12" raised bed along one of my fences where I specifically grow cucumbers.
eta: I'd also recommend looking into the square foot gardening method. I plant loosely based upon that school of thought, and I'm constantly giving vegetables away.
I plant tomatoes, peppers, squash, zucchini, and okra in the main bed. I also have an 8'x12"x12" raised bed along one of my fences where I specifically grow cucumbers.
eta: I'd also recommend looking into the square foot gardening method. I plant loosely based upon that school of thought, and I'm constantly giving vegetables away.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 10:10 am
Posted on 2/11/20 at 10:32 am to geauxcats10
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Any suggestions on size of raised bed and what to plant?
The first question would be, what do you like to eat? Then, what do you look to get out of it? Many herbs are very easy to grow. To the point that they can take over a bed if not contained, eg mint or oregano.
Next, do you want to build a bed or buy a "bed in a box" as it were?
How raised do you want it? I have my shallots and onions growing in 2'x 4' boxes on 24" legs. No bending. I also have 3 4'x 12' raised beds that I will use the square foot method on. I am also experimenting with self wicking tubs and grow bags.
Your best bet is hit up Youtube. There are literally thousands of gardeners out there farming in everything from a clay pot to floating farms of styrofoam and everything in between.
Your best bet, start small. Use quality soil and buy your first couple of plants. Then just read and read. Some plants are super simple to grow. Others will make you want to switch to rock gardening. By the way, where are you located? What area? That is also a big indicator of what you can and can't grow.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 10:35 am to convertedtiger
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grow bags.
These work very well but require a lot of watering in the summer months. Irrigation would be best.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 10:54 am to bluemoons
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These work very well but require a lot of watering in the summer months
My whole garden is on a micro irrigation system. Drippers, soakers, and sprayers in 4 zones according to the watering needs. I went with 20 gallon bags and pots to give some wiggle room but they can be watered hourly, if needed.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:09 am to convertedtiger
Nice. How did you go about setting up different zones? I have irrigation on my main beds, but I'd like to set something up for my bags this year with sprayers around the bases of the plants (tomatoes).
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:10 pm to bluemoons
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How did you go about setting up different zones
I just use two 2 zone Orbits digital hose end timers on a 4 way manifold. That gives me 4 zones to work with. I have them staggered for one going on at a time so that the water pressure doesn't drop to below the 25 psi minimum on each line. Look on Amazon for sprayers. I got a 50 pack of 1-10gph micro sprayers for $10. DIG makes a soaker hose for micro irrigation that I am going to try out this year on the main beds.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:20 pm to geauxcats10
Depends on a lot of things like others have said.
Where do you live?
How much yard are you ok with giving up for a bed?
Does the area get plenty of light?
What will you actually eat? This is a big one and can make a world of difference in how much you and your daughter enjoy the whole process.
How old is your daughter? If pretty young you may want to plant something she can pick and eat right off the plant. My sons' favorite thing is the crappy blackberry bush in a pot that only produces a few blackberries once a year. The fact that they can pick it themselves and eat it right there gets them pretty pumped up.
I have thought about chunking it a few times because it gets neglected and I could use the pot for something else but I can't bring myself to do it since they love it so much. It will go in the ground this year and I will start tending to it so it will actually start producing a decent amount.
Where do you live?
How much yard are you ok with giving up for a bed?
Does the area get plenty of light?
What will you actually eat? This is a big one and can make a world of difference in how much you and your daughter enjoy the whole process.
How old is your daughter? If pretty young you may want to plant something she can pick and eat right off the plant. My sons' favorite thing is the crappy blackberry bush in a pot that only produces a few blackberries once a year. The fact that they can pick it themselves and eat it right there gets them pretty pumped up.
I have thought about chunking it a few times because it gets neglected and I could use the pot for something else but I can't bring myself to do it since they love it so much. It will go in the ground this year and I will start tending to it so it will actually start producing a decent amount.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:38 pm to convertedtiger
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I just use two 2 zone Orbits digital hose end timers on a 4 way manifold. That gives me 4 zones to work with. I have them staggered for one going on at a time so that the water pressure doesn't drop to below the 25 psi minimum on each line. Look on Amazon for sprayers. I got a 50 pack of 1-10gph micro sprayers for $10. DIG makes a soaker hose for micro irrigation that I am going to try out this year on the main beds.
That’s an excellent set-up- I’ve put micro-irrigation in all my landscape beds using the same or similar products and love it, but not but yet done this in my raised bed vegetable garden though I keep saying I will. I’m going to do follow your advice and do what you described this planting season, that set up will work perfectly for me - and I have a IrrigationMart that sells everything I need 10 minutes away.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:41 pm to CrawDude
The zones take a little time to dial in to get everyone watered well. I have snaked 1/2" poly tubing I have a combo of drippers, sprayers, and now soakers. The variable GPH emitters really help dialing in for just the right amount of water per plant. I have some roses on the deck that are water hogs but also some potted herbs that only need a bit. The variable emitters are the way to go for me.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 6:23 pm to convertedtiger
Guys, any way I can slow these things down? I still have about 5-6 weeks before transplanting.
By the way, I’ve been keeping them outside. Only have them inside because it’s supposed to get down to the 30’s the next couple of nights.
By the way, I’ve been keeping them outside. Only have them inside because it’s supposed to get down to the 30’s the next couple of nights.
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 7:04 pm
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