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Posted on 11/17/19 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 2:16 pm to
Remind me again why Trump still has a Department of Education. IMHO, Devos hasn't accomplished anything. If you are intent on MAGA, this has to happen.
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 2:19 pm to
"outcomes differences"???
Posted by Possumslayer
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 2:25 pm to
Webster’s dictionary said they’re stupid.
Posted by CheEngineer
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 2:34 pm to


Brainwashing them early
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 2:38 pm to
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quote:
So. . .yeah


...says the guy who openly mocked those who voted for a gubernatorial candidate who opposes those ideals while supporting a candidate who openly supports that agenda...presumably because he was a neocon.

Well done.


+1
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 2:42 pm to
A lot of places use the data but then you can't use the data if it makes minorities look bad.
We all know children who don't have any help at home, come from low income, come from families without leadership will struggle. But we are not allowed to address those issues, we throw money at it thinking it will fix these issues. School districts need to work with these families to ensure success
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 2:51 pm to
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School districts need to work with these families to ensure success


You think education bureaucrats can fix effed up families?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:02 pm to
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i love the "that is, by definition" move after re-defining everything on the fly
Sometimes I think I am the only one who uses that phrase correctly.

And I almost never use it.

People need to be more deliberate with their words, man
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:05 pm to
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Well done.


So because I voted against Rispone, it means I am in support of everything Edwards' party stands for?

I oppose plenty of things Trump stands for, it doesn't mean I won't vote for him again.

This republican plantation you guys have is as bad as the Dem one.

You guys are like children, I swear. . .

Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:09 pm to
Nope but there has been plenty of things that can help. You can't fix a lot but you have a lot of good families who are part of that or people who would resonate with. You don't have to reach everyone, just some of them to enact change
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:22 pm to
I think EBRP schools need to adopt some form of quick trigger expulsions.

If a kid is a serious disruption, he needs to be removed far more quickly. I don't know how, but it needs to be done.

On the flip side, the amount of extreme poverty in public school students is out of control. The pressures on these kids to be adults outside of school, and the demands on their time is something that is pretty daunting.

I mean, you can't reasonably expect kids to have pencil and paper, unless you provide it for them.

The worst part. . .nobody has any good answers. Every solution that needs higher revenue is opposed by the right. Every solution that involves more work, teacher accountability, or student accountability is opposed by the left.

Teachers always shoulder the blame from parents, students, administration, the school board, and often the media.

Blaming the teachers themselves is just fricking retarded. They are working with both their hands tied behind their back. They are killing it out there, with no support, little pay. . . and are having to come out of pocket to get school supplies for kids.

It is a fricked up spot, and nobody has any answers.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:26 pm to
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So because I voted against Rispone, it means I am in support of everything Edwards' party stands for?


We voted Rispone because he represented our financial and political interests and there is no conservative case to be made for JBE's candidacy.

You voted Edwards because you think Rispone is an a-hole.

Trying to argue otherwise is like trying to argue water is dry. Simple as that.

quote:

This republican plantation you guys have is as bad as the Dem one.



You're a good example of why LOLbertarians just cannot gain any traction in the GOP.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:28 pm to
#FakeScience

Posted by VOR
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:33 pm to
How would they explain Dulac?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:33 pm to
A local school has started after school programs that work as daycares that has shown improvement.
Like I said, it won't reach everyone but if you can change the perception of what a kids reality is by 1 in 5 students you are doing something positive.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:35 pm to
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You voted Edwards because you think Rispone is an a-hole.
I did.

And also, because he gave no evidence that he was any different from Edwards, outside of generalities and vague talking points.

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Trying to argue otherwise is like trying to argue water is dry.
Despite me constantly giving you other reasons?

Small tent you have on this plantation, sir.

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You're a good example of why LOLbertarians just cannot gain any traction in the GOP.
You are a good example of why the GOP can't win over libertarians.

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VOTE STRAIGHT R, REGARDLESS OF THE CANDIDATE, OR YOU ARE A LiBrUl SoCiAlIsT.
That's you guys.

That's how you sound.

Lulz.

frick that.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4028 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:35 pm to
road well said many here are just as tribal republicans as the typical Liberal in CA is a tribal DEM. JBE is no different politically than Truman or JFK , who most people’s parents or grandparents likely voted for. Like u I will vote for Trump, not because I like him, I don’t but on he is better at the national level than the modern National dems who I have never supported and I started voting with Reagan
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
57605 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:36 pm to
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So because I voted against Rispone, it means I am in support of everything Edwards' party stands for?



It means there is something about Rispone that is worse than what you are referencing here.

quote:

This republican plantation you guys have is as bad as the Dem one.

You guys are like children, I swear. . .



Republican plantation? You just voted for a guy whose values and platform is that of which you pretend to disagree with.

I would think that if it made sense to vote AGAINST anyone, it would have been to vote against JBE. But, you keep pretending like you are an enlightened libertarian who can't be classified into a single group like those "neocon" republicans who voted for Rispone.

It's really funny man. Can you name a single thing about JBE's platform that is different than Rispone that you agree with? You just accidentally (without realizing it) objected to something that he openly supports.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
57605 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:39 pm to
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I think EBRP schools need to adopt some form of quick trigger expulsions.



JBE doesn't support that.

quote:

If a kid is a serious disruption, he needs to be removed far more quickly. I don't know how, but it needs to be done.



JBE doesn't support that.

quote:

On the flip side, the amount of extreme poverty in public school students is out of control. The pressures on these kids to be adults outside of school, and the demands on their time is something that is pretty daunting.

I mean, you can't reasonably expect kids to have pencil and paper, unless you provide it for them.

The worst part. . .nobody has any good answers. Every solution that needs higher revenue is opposed by the right. Every solution that involves more work, teacher accountability, or student accountability is opposed by the left.



Honest people know it's not about revenue given that private schools spend less on education than public schools do. Honest people don't pretend that the problems are related to the kids being able to afford pencils and paper.

Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:40 pm to
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A local school has started after school programs that work as daycares that has shown improvement.
Like I said, it won't reach everyone but if you can change the perception of what a kids reality is by 1 in 5 students you are doing something positive.


Funding for those programs gets tossed around like a political football. They get funded, some work. . .and then the next pop-psych thing comes out, and it gets all the funding.

See it every damn year.

Results are secondary to political usefulness.

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